Kang Zen, kunaon Abubakar, Umar, Ustman di kalangan syiah teu diaku khalifah ?
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mohammad zen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Salam, > > nya memang seueur upaya pemberitaan anu sengaja hoyong mengadu domba muslim > syiah jeung suni teh... atuh tos tiap tahun Di Iran teh ngayakeun konferensi > persatuan Islam anu dihadiri ku berbagai ulama di dunia...anu anyar wae > perwakilan Ikhwanul muslim hadir dina eta konferensi, bahkan wakilna nyarios > berterima kasih ka pamimpin syiah di iran kana dukungan perjuangan rakyat > mesir, ulama alazhar dina eta nyebutkeun yen kebangkitan rakyat mesir jeung > nagara arab dina pengaruh kebangkitan rakyat Iran... > > komo deui anu anyar Ulama alazhar kantos mengunjungi sayyid Sistani di Irak > , > persahabatan alazhar jeung iran jeung irak kuat pisan... > tegesna deui rektor alazhar nyebatkeun yen kedah ati2 kana pengkafiran org2 > wahabi... > > komo deui ayeuna di Indonesia , ku ayana pernyataan MUI anu mendukung > persatuan Islam, komo deui yeu usaha IJABI ... insyaAllah lancar... > > mun ceuk urang mah ayeuna mah zaman persatuan sanes perpecahan, jadi teu > kudu diadu jotos sagala hehe... da teu aya anu kudu diadu... mazhab syiah, > maliki, hanafi, hanbali, syafei zaidi kabehge Muslim atuh ... pasti ari beda > mah...ngan pasti nu samina oge seueur., perbedaan urang jadikeun kekayaan > ilmu anu aya... > > upami Ahmadiah mah benten atuh teu tiasa dibandingkeun jeung syiah... > tapi ahmadiah oge aya dua : aya anu ngaku nabi anyar ( tah eta mah kaluar > ti Islam) , aya anu ngan ngaku khalifah ( ieu mah masih keneh Islam) > > tapi kumaha oge deuk ahmadiah nu mana oge dina kahirupan bermasarakat kedah > silih ngahormatan kitu wae lah.... > > > > wassalam... > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ki Hasan <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Tue, March 15, 2011 5:17:40 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kisunda] Re: Fw: Syiah kasieunan jadi target saterusna? > > > > Ari ceuk uing mah, aya hadena tiap mazhab pada "jogol" teh. Pek we geura > "jarogol" sing junun, sing nepi kahontal nu dipimaksud. Pek geura "jogol" > pa-sakti sakti, pa-kuat-kuat. Engke nu pang saktina, nu-pang kuatna, nu-pang > unggulna kaci ngaku pang-benerna. > > Ngan "jogol"-na nu jiga kieu yeuh: > > 1. Geura jarogol di laut, silih babuk, tiap mazhab, sing nepi ka-bisa > nyieun kapal keur ngala lauk, sangkan nepi bisa kaluar jadi lauk kalengan. > Geura nyarieun kapal induk. Sugan we aya kapal pamayang, aya kapal induk > buatan mazhab syiah, buatan mazhab Hanafi, Hambali, Maliki, Shafi'i, > Ja'fari, Zaydi, Ibadi, oge Zahiri. > > 2. Geura jarogol di awang-awang, silih sered jiga Gatotkaca, sing nepi ka > bisa nyieun manuk beusi keur ngangkut nu jaroh ka Tanah Suci. Unggal taun > marunggah haji, make kapal nu mesinna buatan Boeing. Pan leuwih hade mun > marunggah haji make pesawat buatan mazhab Hanafi, Hambali, Maliki, Shafi'i, > Ja'fari, Zaydi, Ibadi, oge Zahiri. > > 3. Geura jarogol di darat, sing nepi ka bisa nyieun motor, mobil, keur > kandaraan angkat ka majlis taklim, keur indit jumaahan. Hebring mun aya > motor, mobil buatan mazhab Hanafi, Hambali, Maliki, Shafi'i, Ja'fari, Zaydi, > Ibadi, oge Zahiri. Geura nyarieun teleskop keur noong anak bulan, ngarah > gampang nangtukeun poe lebaran, ulah ngan ukur ngengken we kana sedekah > jariahna Tuan Booscha. Para jamaah mazhab Hanafi, Hambali, Maliki, Shafi'i, > Ja'fari, Zaydi, Ibadi, oge Zahiri, nu baroga harta lubak libuk, tong > ngawur-ngawur wae harta usum mayar zakat fitrah, apan tiap usum ge aya wae > korban nu kaidek. Tah turutan cara Tuan Booscha, K.F Hole, jariahkeun harta > teh ku cara nu leuwih rasional, geura nyarieun Perpustakaan, geura nyarieun > Laboratorium, jeung sajabana. > > Kuamah baraya satuju? > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:21 PM, oman abdurahman <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> Upami tumut kana kasaluyuan anu aya ti wakil-wakil ummat Muslim sadunya, >> teu kudu aya kahariwang, sabab sabagean gede madzhab2- atawa aliran2 Islam >> teh eta disalindungan. Contona, anu beh dieu wae, kasapukan anu kawentar >> salaku "The Amman Massage" (talatah ti Amman, Yordania), taun 2004. >> >> Sakumaha diwartakeun ku wikipedia, dina tgl 9 November tahun 2004 (27 >> Ramadhan 1425 H) para wawakil ummat Islam ti 50 nagara di ieu dunya, >> jumlahna 200 urang para sarjana atawa anu berpendidikan, ngarumpul di >> ibukota Yordania, Amman, pikeun ngabahas toleransi jeung karukunan umat >> Islam sadunya. Hasilna nyaeta kasaluyuan panggero (statemen) anu disebut >> "The Amman Massage" anu dipimpin ku Raja Jordan, Abdullah II bin Al-Hussein >> (madzhab Sunni) kalawan dirojong ku 200 anu hadir dina eta pajemuhan. Dina >> eta kasaluyuan panggero anu ditujukeun pikeun ummat Islam sadunya, >> ditetelakeun saha wae anu disebut Muslim, panafian tina Islam (tafkir) jeung >> ngeunaan fatwa. Indonesia harita diwakilan ku 8 wakil. >> >> Numutkeun "Amman Massage", aya 8 golongan/madzhab anu diaku salaku muslim. >> Anu 8 teh nyaeta: Sunni Hanafi, Sunni Hambali, Sunni Maliki, Sunni Shafi'i, >> Shiah Ja'fari, Shi'ah Zaydi, Ibadi jeung Zahiri. Jadi, madzhab anu kasieunan >> kaasup anu disalindungan (dilindungi). >> >> Info neguaan Amman Massage bisa dipaluruh di dieu: >> http://www.ammanmessage.com/ jeung di dieu: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman_Message >> >> >> Cag heula. >> >> manar >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Ahsa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Nembe ninggal FB, pangurus IJABI pusat, dibewarakeun yen minggu hareup >>> bakal ngaluncurkeun MUHSIN (majelis ukhuwah sunnah syiah) kerjasama sareng >>> DEWAN MASJID INDONESIA. Teras kamari aya sawala ukhuwah nu dihadirin ku >>> ormas2 Indonesia di MUI pusat. NGabahas pentingna ukhuwah. JIgana... geus >>> ditaki2an nya sangkan ulah jadi ribut :-) >>> >>> >>> --- In [email protected], "Waluya" <waluya2006@...> wrote: >>> > >>> > Sanggeus Akhmadyah, target saterusna Syiah? Nyanggakeun artikel ti The >>> Jakarta Globe. Punten henteu disundakeun, bilih lepat ..... >>> > >>> > Special Report: Shiites Fear They Are the Next Target >>> > Nivell Rayda | March 14, 2011 >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/special-report-shiites-fear-they-are-the-nex\ >>> <http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/special-report-shiites-fear-they-are-the-nex>> >>> t-target/428746 >>> > >>> > The small Al Khasanah Mosque in East Jakarta was half-full when Farid >>> Okbah took to the podium to deliver his sermon. >>> > >>> > Fifteen minutes into his fiery speech, the place of worship was packed >>> with around 150 people eager to hear the firebrand cleric lash out against >>> what he called deviant beliefs. >>> > >>> > Minority sects "are thorns in our flesh," he told his followers. "They >>> are far more dangerous than the infidels. They weaken Islam from within, >>> spinning Islamic verses to suit their own political agendas." >>> > >>> > He cited the Ahmadis, the Sufis and moderate Sunni Muslims. But >>> whatever criticism he had for these groups was eclipsed by the sheer vitriol >>> targeted toward the Shiites. >>> > >>> > One Shiite in Indonesia is one Shiite too many, the cleric said. >>> > >>> > `Need to Be Exterminated' >>> > >>> > Though Farid preaches in a small mosque, his sermons are picked up by >>> groups like the Ikhwanul Jannah Foundation and the As Salafi Foundation and >>> circulated on the Internet. >>> > >>> > Audio clips of his teachings and those of other anti-Shia clerics like >>> Salim Al Muhdor and Salim Yahya Qibas are available online for download. >>> > >>> > Farid is a Salafi, a follower of the ultra-orthodox interpretation of >>> Islam that holds that only the version of the religion as espoused by the >>> Prophet Muhammad and his companions and the two generations after them is >>> valid. >>> > >>> > For Farid, now in his 60s, alternative or moderate interpretations of >>> the Koran or the Prophet's teachings constitute a form of deviancy. >>> > >>> > The practice common among many Muslims in Indonesia of making >>> pilgrimages to the tombs of Islamic missionaries and clerics is for Farid a >>> "sinful modification of Islam." Likewise, he deems the high regard in which >>> Ahmadiyah founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is held by his followers "heretical." >>> > >>> > But he pays special attention to Shiites, having spent much time >>> collecting books about the branch to find "evidence" of their heresy. >>> > >>> > In an interview with the Jakarta Globe, Farid brought out four books >>> that he said proved the Shia interpretation of Islam made the Shiite >>> community "more dangerous than Ahmadiyah." >>> > >>> > "Their ideals are so deviant that their teachings need to be >>> exterminated," he said. >>> > >>> > Worried Shiites >>> > >>> > The main difference between the Shia and Sunni branches of Islam is >>> that Shiites regard Ali, Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law, as the divinely >>> appointed successor to the Prophet. >>> > >>> > Shiites also only accept the hadith, or teachings, credited to >>> Muhammad's close family and associates, while Sunnis only accept those >>> credited to his companions. >>> > >>> > Like the Ahmadis, Shiites are a minority in Indonesia. But unlike the >>> Ahmadis, they have been defended by top religious figures in the country, >>> including Habib Rizieq, chairman of the hard-line Islamic Defenders Front >>> (FPI). >>> > >>> > However, at the grassroots level, Shiites say they are starting to feel >>> the heat. >>> > >>> > "Although I don't agree with Ahmadiyah, the persecution of Ahmadiyah >>> members has left us worried," Fahrurozi Shadiq, a Shiite, told the Globe. >>> > >>> > "Some of my friends have discussed the possibility that we may be the >>> next target [of hard-liner attacks]." >>> > >>> > He said he used to pray according to the Shia tradition at the mosque >>> at his predominantly Sunni university campus in South Jakarta. >>> > >>> > "I used to think, `Why should I be afraid?' Yes, there are people who >>> are curious about the way I pray. But that was usually it," he said. "Now >>> they're growing intolerant. Last month, I was told not to pray there >>> anymore. `Take your sect elsewhere,' they said. Can you imagine? Intolerance >>> at a campus filled with scholars and educated people?" >>> > >>> > Musa Kazhim Al Habsy, another Shiite, said many followers were >>> uncomfortable about displaying their faith in public, even in multicultural >>> Jakarta. >>> > >>> > "Some people have lost their jobs because of their faith. Entrepreneurs >>> have lost business deals after their clients discovered they were Shiites," >>> he told the Globe. >>> > >>> > But while Shiites in big cities like Jakarta endure discrimination and >>> verbal abuse, those living in small towns and villages face physical assault >>> and vandalism of their property, he said. >>> > >>> > "My late father was a Shia cleric in Bangil [in East Java]. When I was >>> little, people would throw garbage in our front yard or write `infidel' on >>> our doors and walls," Musa said. >>> > >>> > "But in the past five years it's become more violent. Some of our >>> pupils have been harassed and our boarding school vandalized." >>> > >>> > Sunni and Shia in Indonesia >>> > >>> > Azyumardi Azra, a professor of Islamic history at Syarif Hidayatullah >>> State Islamic University (UIN) in Jakarta, said the Shia community in >>> Indonesia dated back to the arrival of Islam here, but grew rapidly after >>> the Iranian revolution >>> > in 1979. >>> > >>> > "Around the same period, Saudi Arabia tried to spread Wahhabism," he >>> said, referring to the hard-line form of Salafism adopted by the ruling Saud >>> family of that country. >>> > >>> > "At the time, Saudi Arabia was a rising oil giant and trying to spread >>> > Wahhabism, including to Indonesia." >>> > >>> > Tensions between the Wahhabis and Salafis on one side and Shiites on >>> the other escalated during the Iran-Iraq war, but later died down, Musa >>> said. >>> > >>> > "I guess tensions arose again after the fall of Saddam Hussein and the >>> rise of the Shiites in Iraq," he said. "With the Middle East in turmoil once >>> again, the scale of the problem will only grow larger." >>> > >>> > The Islamic Cultural Center in Jakarta, deemed the center of Shia >>> propagation in Indonesia, says it is hard to estimate the number of Shiites >>> in the country because many choose to practice their faith in secret. >>> > >>> > There are around 150 Shia foundations, mostly under the name Ahlulbayt, >>> or Lovers of the Prophet's Household. >>> > >>> > The Pasuruan Incident >>> > >>> > Tensions between Sunnis and Shiites erupted most recently on Feb. 16, >>> when dozens of demonstrators hurled rocks at the Alma'hadul Islam boarding >>> school in Kenep village in Pasuruan, East Java. >>> > >>> > Four Shiite students were severely injured in the attack. >>> > >>> > A source told the Globe the attackers were Sunni Muslims, but police >>> and government officials called it a "student brawl" unrelated to any >>> religious issue. >>> > >>> > Dedy Prihambudi, former head of the Surabaya Legal Aid Foundation >>> (LBH), said that the attack took place after a prayer meeting in Pasuruan. >>> > >>> > "It's not clear what was said at the meeting, but shortly afterward >>> they headed to the school in a convoy and attacked it," he said. >>> > >>> > He added that confrontations between Sunnis and Shiites last occurred >>> in 2006 and 2007 in Pasuruan, but none reached this level of violence. >>> > >>> > Jalaluddin Rakhmat, a leading Shia figure, said the situation in >>> Pasuruan had been resolved through dialogue. However, local media reported >>> that anti-Shia organizations have objected to several points in an agreement >>> drawn up by the local administration, such as not calling Shia a deviant >>> sect or seeking its disbandment. >>> > >>> > "It looks like centuries of feuding between Shiites and Sunnis in the >>> Middle East has found a new battleground in Indonesia," Musa said. >>> > >>> > Preview of What's Ahead? >>> > >>> > Buoyed by the weak response from the authorities to the recent attacks >>> against Ahmadiyah communities, firebrand clerics like Farid are ratcheting >>> up their rhetoric against Shiites. >>> > >>> > "I never suggested violence, but if the people are growing restless >>> because of the Shia movement and if they take the law into their own hands, >>> then who's to blame?" he asked. "Of course it's the Shia's fault." >>> > >>> > Musa said that in his hometown of Bangil, Salafi-affiliated groups have >>> grown more vocal about shutting down Shia boarding schools in the area. >>> > >>> > "They hold rallies where they say it's halal to spill the blood of the >>> Shiites," he said. >>> > >>> > The Ahmadiyah community knows the significance of such calls all too >>> well. In the period leading up to the bloody attack on an Ahmadiyah >>> community in Cikeusik subdistrict in Banten, clerics made similar >>> justifications about killing members of the sect. >>> > >>> > The attack in February saw three Ahmadiyah members killed, but the >>> local administration blamed the sect for proselytizing. >>> > >>> > "Differences between Muslim sects have always been and will always be >>> > irreconcilable," said Azra, the UIN professor. "We have to address the >>> root causes of these acts of violence. Unfortunately, the government has no >>> vision [for addressing the issue]. Instead, it turns a blind eye to the >>> problem. >>> > >>> > "The government is supposed to protect all citizens regardless of their >>> faith, but now we see them blaming the victims. People will now think that >>> violence committed by large crowds will never be prosecuted." >>> > >>> >>> > > > >
