Tah Kang Ahsa, jigana nu leuwih apal nya. Hehehe

2011/12/8 <[email protected]>

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>
> ** Eta di pasantren muntahhari adzana kumaha? Adzan standar atanapi adzan
> pleus?
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> *From: * Ki Hasan <[email protected]>
> *Sender: * [email protected]
> *Date: *Wed, 7 Dec 2011 18:33:56 +0800
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *ReplyTo: * [email protected]
> *Subject: *Adzan Syiah ==> Re: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina)
>
>
>
> Perkara urang Iran jeung shalat, uing rada nyakseni kana papanggihan kang
> Ilen. Dumasar kana nu kapanggih ku uing ge kitu. Gigireun uing baheula di
> Lab, kenca katuhu kawawuhan urang Iran, di tukangeun uing oge sarua.
> disebut rada teh, pedah can yakin pisan, sabab can nyaba ka Iran. Uing teu
> nyebut syiah, tapi Iran, sabab boga asumsi teu kabeh urang Iran syiah.
>
> Noongan rujukan, teuing dalil teuing lain, hehehe.
> Manggih adzan syiah cenah, geuning aya embohna nya.
> Sanggeus kalimah syahadat ka Rosul, aya dua kalimah tambahan, syahadat ka
> Ali.
>
> "Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Waliyullah;
> Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Amir al-Mu'minina Hujjatullah "
>
> Salengkepna toong di YouTube:
> Adzan (Syiah-Shia).flv
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qst5VgYEB9c
>
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>
> Uploaded by bravadowarrior <http://www.youtube.com/user/bravadowarrior>on Oct
> 13, 2010
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> »»» Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Waliyullah; Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Amir
> al-Mu'minina Hujjatullah (RECOMMENDABLE/PREFERABLE) :
>
> Sayyed Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah:
> The Shiites Religious Scholars have unanimously agreed that it is neither
> a part of the Adhan nor of the Iqamah. But, they say that it is
> RECOMMENDABLE per se which means that it is recommendable to mention Ali
> (AS).
> http://english.bayynat.org.lb/QA/qa.aspx?id=27
>
> Grand Ayatullah Sayyid Ali Husaini Sistani:
> Ash hadu anna Amiral Mu'minina 'Aliyyan Waliyyullah (I testify that the
> Commander of the faithful, Imam Ali (AS) is the Vicegerent of Allah) is not
> a part of either Adhan or Iqamah. But it is PREFERABLE that it is
> pronounced after Ash hadu anna Muhammadan Rasulullah with the niyyat of
> Qurbat.
> http://www.sistani.org/local.php?modules=nav&nid=2&bid=59&pid=2947
>
> Ayatullah Al-Udzma Sayyid Ali Khamenei: It is not a part of the adhan or
> iqamah according to Islamic law, but there will be no problem in it if it
> is not included with the intention of putting it into, and making it a part
> of the adhan and iqamah. Rather, this testimony will be PREFERABLE if it is
> included solely for expressing and stressing one's belief regarding the
> Caliph {successor} of the holy Prophet, may God's blessings be upon him and
> his infallible inheritors.
> http://syedaji.multiply.com/journal/item/10
>
> =====
>
>
> 2011/12/7 ilen kardani <[email protected]>
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Kang Ahsa anu dimulyakeun,
>>
>> Perkawis timana sumberna naon anu diserat ku sim kuring sateuacana nyaeta
>> taya lain tina sirah sorangan sakumaha kaunggel dina seratanana, moal
>> nuduhkeun kaditu kadieu, jadi arek ditanggung ku sorangan we bener jeung
>> salahna oge. Ngarana oge eta mah eusi pikiran, bisa diganti iraha wae oge
>> eusina mah ngan jinisna mah angger we si ilen kardani. Mun tea mah arek
>> dikekesek, sok we kekesek eta eusi pikiranana tapi ulah jinisna.
>>
>> Kuring boga kawawuhan sababaraha urang shiah ti Iran, sakabeh
>> kawawuhan nu ngaku Shiah teh euweuh saurang oge anu sok sharolat atawa
>> paruasa di bulan Ramadhan....jadi geningan rada genah oge jadi Shiah mah da
>> teu kudu sharolat jeung paruasa. Malahan sawareh mah ngarewaeun pisan ka
>> Kangjeng Nabi Muhamad pedah beuki kawin cenah jeung ngawin budak  awewe
>> nu umurna 9 taun. Kuring yakin oge yen teu sakabeh Shiah ti Iran kararitu
>> patut, pasti aya nu bedana ngan meureun encan pareng dipanggihkeun we jeung
>> kuring.
>>
>> Timana sumberna? Ieu oge lain meunang maca tiditu tideu, tapi tina
>> pergaulan jeung babaturan.
>>
>> Sakitu kaula nun, baktosna ti ilen kardani kanggo sadayana.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* ahsa <[email protected]>
>> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:04 AM
>> *Subject:* Bls: Bls: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina)
>>
>>
>>  sabaraha buku sajarah nyebatkeun ayana peristiwa karbala. sanes fiktif.
>> ahli sajarah ahlusunnah sareng Syiah oge nyarioskeun perkawis eta
>> kajantenan.
>> Manawi aya sumber nu pasti perkawis nu disebakeun ke ku Ilen atanapi
>> Kabayan. mangga di antos
>>
>>  *Dari:* Mang Kabayan <[email protected]>
>> *Kepada:* Kisunda <[email protected]>
>> *Dikirim:* Selasa, 6 Desember 2011 20:44
>> *Judul:* Re: Bls: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina)
>>
>>
>>
>> Beneeer Mang... Nu ngarana sajarah tergantung kepada yg menggayot hehehe
>> alias saha anu nulisna kadang persepsi anu nulisna oge ngilu ulubiung
>> hehehe... nu matak sajarah oge sabenerna dinamis henteu statis da nyakitu
>> urang teu ngalaman langsung di jaman eta, ceunah... Jeung ceunah weh.
>>
>> Mana nu bener wallohualam... Anu jelas nya urang ulah cepet nyokot
>> kasimpulan... Tapi keun weh sina ngalir terus ditalungtik nepika "kacabak"
>> jeung "kapanggih" sugan hehehe.
>> Nuhuuuuuns,
>> Mang Kabayan
>> www.dkabayan.com
>> ti urang, ku urang, keur balarea
>>  *From: *ilen kardani <[email protected]>
>> *Sender: *[email protected]
>> *Date: *Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:15:28 -0800 (PST)
>> *To: *[email protected]<[email protected]>
>> *ReplyTo: *[email protected]
>> *Subject: *Re: Bls: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina)
>>
>>
>>  Juragans,
>>
>> Sigana kuring mah moal mangmeunangkeun mana nu kudu dibelaan da teu pati
>> apal kumaha lalampahan aranjeuna waktu harirupna, boh ka Zayid Muawiyah
>> atawa Imam Hussein, oge teu rumasa jadi turunanana. Jadi arek netral we
>> kaditu kadieu, bisi kajadian nu sabenerna teu saluyu jeung nu dicaritakeun
>> tina riwayat, maklum ari sejarah mah sok aya campur tangan nu nulisna.
>> Boa-boa Imam Hussein mah teu ditelasan waktu harita teh, bisa jadi
>> pangagung nagri nyieun sandiwara siga kitu keur balarea ngarah taraat ka
>> pamingpin harita.
>>
>> Lamun tea mah Allah ngamulyakeun imam Hussein, piraku teu ngalungsurkeun
>> pitulungna sakumaha Anjeuna nulungan Nabi Ibrahim, Ismail, Nuh, Ayub,
>> sareng Nabi Muhammad anu kaluar tina panista umatna jaman harita.
>> Sabalikna, pan sidik Imam Hussein teh putuna Nabi tur dimulyakeun ku Allah,
>> piraku ngalaman nasib anu siga kitu?.
>>
>> Nyanggakeun eta mah mung kaluar tina eusi pikiran sim kuring.
>>
>>

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