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-----Original Message----- From: Sp Saprudin <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:00:02 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Bls: Adzan Syiah ==> Re: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina) mun nilik kalimat "KEBAKTIAN" istilah ieu sok dipake ku jemaat AHMADIYAH Syiah jeung Amhadiyah teh meureun kaka jeung adi nyah Dari: ahsa <[email protected]> Kepada: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Dikirim: Kamis, 8 Desember 2011 11:45 Judul: Bls: Adzan Syiah ==> Re: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina) hehehe... ah. ngaran na oge sakola, sarua bae, da nyandak kurikulumna oge ti diknas. ngan aya nu beda tina muatan lokal, aya fiqih muqaran; ngabahas lima mazhab. Barudak sakola SMA muthahhari mah mun solat sok jamaah dengan masyarakat sekitar. Sarua bae jeung urang-urang, da Mutahhari pan aya di lingkungan NU, jadi sapertos NU. Jigana mah ngilu parentah Ustadz Jalal, miheulakeun ahlak. Di SD oge pan ngilu diknas we kurikulum dina pelajaran agama mah. Saur rerencangan nu kantos diajar di Suriah, emang aya nu ngabentenkeun azanna, saacan ngucap takbir saatos haya alal falah aya kalimah hayya alal khairul amal. Saurna emang kitu di riwayatna, ngan zaman Utsman (atanapi Umar kitu, poho deui) digentos. Duka tah. Kang Zen nu langkung apal mah. Ari di Muthahhari mah sarua bae. Da masigitna oge ditengah masayarakat kebaktian kiaracondong. Dari: Ki Hasan <[email protected]> Kepada: [email protected] Dikirim: Kamis, 8 Desember 2011 7:53 Judul: Re: Adzan Syiah ==> Re: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina) Tah Kang Ahsa, jigana nu leuwih apal nya. Hehehe 2011/12/8 <[email protected]> >Eta di pasantren muntahhari adzana kumaha? Adzan standar atanapi adzan pleus? >Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® >From: Ki Hasan <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 18:33:56 +0800 >To: <[email protected]> >ReplyTo: [email protected] >Subject: Adzan Syiah ==> Re: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina) > > >Perkara urang Iran jeung shalat, uing rada nyakseni kana papanggihan kang >Ilen. Dumasar kana nu kapanggih ku uing ge kitu. Gigireun uing baheula di Lab, >kenca katuhu kawawuhan urang Iran, di tukangeun uing oge sarua. disebut rada >teh, pedah can yakin pisan, sabab can nyaba ka Iran. Uing teu nyebut syiah, >tapi Iran, sabab boga asumsi teu kabeh urang Iran syiah. > >Noongan rujukan, teuing dalil teuing lain, hehehe. >Manggih adzan syiah cenah, geuning aya embohna nya. >Sanggeus kalimah syahadat ka Rosul, aya dua kalimah tambahan, syahadat ka Ali. > >"Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Waliyullah; >Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Amir al-Mu'minina Hujjatullah " > >Salengkepna toong di YouTube: > >Adzan (Syiah-Shia).flv >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qst5VgYEB9c > >==== > >Uploaded by bravadowarrior on Oct 13, 2010 >»»» Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Waliyullah; Ash-hadu anna Aliyyan Amir al-Mu'minina >Hujjatullah (RECOMMENDABLE/PREFERABLE) : > >Sayyed Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah: >The Shiites Religious Scholars have unanimously agreed that it is neither a >part of the Adhan nor of the Iqamah. But, they say that it is RECOMMENDABLE >per se which means that it is recommendable to mention Ali (AS). >http://english.bayynat.org.lb/QA/qa.aspx?id=27 > >Grand Ayatullah Sayyid Ali Husaini Sistani: >Ash hadu anna Amiral Mu'minina 'Aliyyan Waliyyullah (I testify that the >Commander of the faithful, Imam Ali (AS) is the Vicegerent of Allah) is not a >part of either Adhan or Iqamah. But it is PREFERABLE that it is pronounced >after Ash hadu anna Muhammadan Rasulullah with the niyyat of Qurbat. >http://www.sistani.org/local.php?modules=nav&nid=2&bid=59&pid=2947 > >Ayatullah Al-Udzma Sayyid Ali Khamenei: It is not a part of the adhan or >iqamah according to Islamic law, but there will be no problem in it if it is >not included with the intention of putting it into, and making it a part of >the adhan and iqamah. Rather, this testimony will be PREFERABLE if it is >included solely for expressing and stressing one's belief regarding the Caliph >{successor} of the holy Prophet, may God's blessings be upon him and his >infallible inheritors. >http://syedaji.multiply.com/journal/item/10 >===== > > > >2011/12/7 ilen kardani <[email protected]> > > >>Kang Ahsa anu dimulyakeun, >> >>Perkawis timana sumberna naon anu diserat ku sim kuring sateuacana nyaeta >>taya lain tina sirah sorangan sakumaha kaunggel dina seratanana, moal >>nuduhkeun kaditu kadieu, jadi arek ditanggung ku sorangan we bener jeung >>salahna oge. Ngarana oge eta mah eusi pikiran, bisa diganti iraha wae oge >>eusina mah ngan jinisna mah angger we si ilen kardani. Mun tea mah arek >>dikekesek, sok we kekesek eta eusi pikiranana tapi ulah jinisna. >> >>Kuring boga kawawuhan sababaraha urang shiah ti Iran, sakabeh kawawuhan nu >>ngaku Shiah teh euweuh saurang oge anu sok sharolat atawa paruasa di bulan >>Ramadhan....jadi geningan rada genah oge jadi Shiah mah da teu kudu sharolat >>jeung paruasa. Malahan sawareh mah ngarewaeun pisan ka Kangjeng Nabi Muhamad >>pedah beuki kawin cenah jeung ngawin budak awewe nu umurna 9 taun. Kuring >>yakin oge yen teu sakabeh Shiah ti Iran kararitu patut, pasti aya nu bedana >>ngan meureun encan pareng dipanggihkeun we jeung kuring. >> >>Timana sumberna? Ieu oge lain meunang maca tiditu tideu, tapi tina pergaulan >>jeung babaturan. >> >>Sakitu kaula nun, baktosna ti ilen kardani kanggo sadayana. >> >> >> >>From: ahsa <[email protected]> >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:04 AM >>Subject: Bls: Bls: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina) >> >> >> >>sabaraha buku sajarah nyebatkeun ayana peristiwa karbala. sanes fiktif. ahli >>sajarah ahlusunnah sareng Syiah oge nyarioskeun perkawis eta kajantenan. >> >>Manawi aya sumber nu pasti perkawis nu disebakeun ke ku Ilen atanapi Kabayan. >>mangga di antos >> >> >> >>Dari: Mang Kabayan <[email protected]> >>Kepada: Kisunda <[email protected]> >>Dikirim: Selasa, 6 Desember 2011 20:44 >>Judul: Re: Bls: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina) >> >> >> >> >>Beneeer Mang... Nu ngarana sajarah tergantung kepada yg menggayot hehehe >>alias saha anu nulisna kadang persepsi anu nulisna oge ngilu ulubiung >>hehehe... nu matak sajarah oge sabenerna dinamis henteu statis da nyakitu >>urang teu ngalaman langsung di jaman eta, ceunah... Jeung ceunah weh. >> >>Mana nu bener wallohualam... Anu jelas nya urang ulah cepet nyokot >>kasimpulan... Tapi keun weh sina ngalir terus ditalungtik nepika "kacabak" >>jeung "kapanggih" sugan hehehe. >> >>Nuhuuuuuns, >>Mang Kabayan >>www.dkabayan.com >>ti urang, ku urang, keur balarea >>From: ilen kardani <[email protected]> >>Sender: [email protected] >>Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:15:28 -0800 (PST) >>To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >>ReplyTo: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: Bls: [kisunda] 10 Muharam ( Asyura Huseina) >> >> >>Juragans, >> >> >>Sigana kuring mah moal mangmeunangkeun mana nu kudu dibelaan da teu pati apal >>kumaha lalampahan aranjeuna waktu harirupna, boh ka Zayid Muawiyah atawa Imam >>Hussein, oge teu rumasa jadi turunanana. Jadi arek netral we kaditu kadieu, >>bisi kajadian nu sabenerna teu saluyu jeung nu dicaritakeun tina riwayat, >>maklum ari sejarah mah sok aya campur tangan nu nulisna. Boa-boa Imam Hussein >>mah teu ditelasan waktu harita teh, bisa jadi pangagung nagri nyieun >>sandiwara siga kitu keur balarea ngarah taraat ka pamingpin harita. >> >> >>Lamun tea mah Allah ngamulyakeun imam Hussein, piraku teu ngalungsurkeun >>pitulungna sakumaha Anjeuna nulungan Nabi Ibrahim, Ismail, Nuh, Ayub, sareng >>Nabi Muhammad anu kaluar tina panista umatna jaman harita. Sabalikna, pan >>sidik Imam Hussein teh putuna Nabi tur dimulyakeun ku Allah, piraku ngalaman >>nasib anu siga kitu?. >> >> >> >>Nyanggakeun eta mah mung kaluar tina eusi pikiran sim kuring. >> >>
