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--- In [email protected], "Simkuring" <alkarta_bdg@...> wrote: > > Heuheu, nyaeta Bah, kuring ge katipu satengah asak ku ki dulur dilembur, > hanas didengekeun teleb pisan bari enya palebah mukadimah dongengna mah rada > muringkak oge, na atuh teu nyangka eta dongeng bet jig kadinya, kuring nu > keur nguyup sesa cikopi ge nepika kaburakeun deui⦠J > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Abbas > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [kisunda] Syariat Islam vs Adat Arab (Was: Re: [Urang Sunda] > pipilueun masalah tahlil Cek kuring) > > > > > > Hahahaha........... seuri bari rada maruringkak tea nya ? > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:kisunda%40yahoogroups.com> , > "Simkuring" <alkarta_bdg@> wrote: > > > > Di sabeulah lembur kuring oge pernah gujrud alatan kaleungitan mayit, > > leungitna teh meneran pas pareum lampu tipeuting, keur meredong poek > > mongklengââ¬Â¦ atuh nu ngemitan mayyit ribut kokotetengan neang > > mayitââ¬Â¦ > > > > Barang bray caang, singhoreng mayyit teh keur cindekul we di juru imah bari > > nyepeng tuur, nu ngemitan teh deuih teu sadar bangun nu bungah ngadon nanya > > ka si mayyit, ââ¬Å"keur naon didinya Ki?ââ¬Â, dikersakeun teh si > > mayyit ngadon ngajawab deuih, ââ¬ËNyaeta jang, matak kajuru teh Aki > > sieun katincak ku maranehââ¬Â¦Ã¢â¬Â > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> ] > > On Behalf Of Ki Hasan > > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:42 AM > > To: [email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Syariat Islam vs Adat Arab (Was: Re: [Urang Sunda] pipilueun > > masalah tahlil Cek kuring) > > > > > > > > > > > > Teu bisaeun mandi sorangan, Kang Yadi. Hahaha > > > > 2012/3/10 Y@di <yadi@> > > > > > > > > Hehehe.... > > Kunaon tah mayit dimandian? > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > -Yadi Supriadi Wendy- > > .:Sent using my +62 899 711 8089 <tel:%2B62%20899%20711%208089> with love:. > > > > _____ > > > > From: Gunawan Yusuf Miarsadireja <gunawan_yusuf@> > > > > Sender: [email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:23:24 +0800 (SGT) > > > > To: <[email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > ReplyTo: [email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: Re: Syariat Islam vs Adat Arab (Was: Re: [Urang Sunda] pipilueun > > masalah tahlil Cek kuring) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ngomongkeun jalma maot, inget carios ustad abdi nalika anjeuna diajar fiqih > > bab mandian nu maot, harita ceuk anjeuna kabeneran aya jalma maot geus > > kolot jeung bongkok, atuh bari diajar praktekeun, mimiti si cai dikocorkeun > > tina sirah lajeng ka handap, jalaran jalma bongkok tangtuna teu bisa di > > tangkarakkeun, harita nu mandian barudak/santri sedengkeun guruna/ustad > > mamagahan di tukang-na, sanggeus cai nepi ka awak, si ustad miwarang santri > > mang-nangkarakeun mayit, sanggeus kitu santri dipiwarang ngocorkeun cai > > kana dengkul bari diusap usap lalauan, lantaran barudak keneh dengkul mayit > > lain diusap dengkul teh tapi diteken rada bedas, atuh mayit anu ngagoler > > jadi diuk, barang diuk atuh santri kabur tingkocewak, malihan aya oge nu > > tigebrus kana ember sagala..... > > > > --- On Fri, 3/9/12, Waluya <waluya2006@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Waluya <waluya2006@> > > Subject: Syariat Islam vs Adat Arab (Was: Re: [Urang Sunda] pipilueun > > masalah tahlil Cek kuring) > > To: [email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 2:31 PM > > > > > > > > Hehehe kuring mah sakadar mere kira-kira kasang tukangna kunaon nu kamaotan > > sok hajat, naha eta teh "sesa" ti budaya karuhun urang, nya tiasa wae. Tapi > > teu aya maksud bade ngadamel dikotomi antara budaya urang jeung budaya > > Arab. Maksad teh lamun ngartos kasang tukangna, ngartos filosofina, > > diharepkeun muncul empati, silih hargaan kanu beda. > > > > Tahlil (kaasup hajatna) masalah kayakinan, kayakinan teu tiasa diukur ku > > rasio saperti itung-itungan untung-rugi jeung ampir teu tiasa didebatkeun. > > Kayakinan lir ibarat karesep atawa kabeuki: Diulah-ulah ngadahar jengkol da > > matak jengkoleun, asam urat, jeung matak bau kamar mandi, ih da beuki, nya > > dihabek wae. Tapi waktu dititah ngadahar pizza, malah diutahkeun, heueuh > > ari teu beuki, rek dikumahakeun. Kitu deui Kayakinan: Saurang kolot di > > lembur nu geus yakin bener yen lamun maot teh kudu ditahlilan, tepika pesen > > ka anak-anakna lamun maot kudu ditahlilan, hariwang da anak-anakna nu geus > > jadi KAUM URBAN di kota, "teu beuki" deui kana Tahlilan. > > > > Sigana kahareup, Tahlilan (plus hajatna) bakal beuki ngurangan, malah di > > kaum urban mah/ perkotaan, ayeuna oge geus loba nu ninggalkeun sabab geus > > teu praktis deui, nu tahlilna oge lain tatangga, tapi ngondang "grup > > Tahlil" bayaran ......... > > > > WLY > > > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > <http://mc/compose?to=urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> , "Y@..." <yadi@> wrote: > > > > > > Sok sering disebut ajaran agama Islam (syariat Islam) teh meunang impor > > > ti nagri Arab.euwih jauh disebut adat ti nagri Arab. Padahal ceuk kuring > > > mah salah. Kusabab sabenerna mah Islam turun (memang turun) di Nagri Arab > > > pikeun sadaya ummat manusa. Jeung nu penting malah ajaran Islam > > > diturunkeun pikeun ngaganti adat Arab malah ngaganti sagala syariat nu > > > tos aya ti heula. > > > Masalah ngaganti syariat, jelas. Masalah ngarombak adat, ieu di handap > > > sababaraha contona. > > > Bangsa Arab biasa kana soal jual beuli anak (perbudakan), Islam nolak > > > perbudakan. Bangsa Arab teu ngahargaan ka istri, Islam kacida ngahargaan > > > ka istri. Jeung rea deui tangtuna ge, pami ditataan hiji-2 mah. > > > Sanajan dina soal pakean oge, istri kedah dibubungkus, sanes pakean Arab, > > > tapi da memang dina AQ istri diwajibkeun kedah buni oratna. Anu jelas > > > dina tutup sirah (keur lalaki), diurang mah dikenal kopeah hideung, da > > > memang aya tidituna, pami shalat sirah kedah ditutup. Teu nurutan kudu > > > make baju gobrah, siga para habib, jste. > > > Soal ibadah/ritual, lengkep tos diatur aturan, kalebet nu > > > dicontoan/sunnah Rasulullah saw. Pami beda biasa disebut bidah. Tapi > > > memang aya bidah hasanah aya oge bidah dzalallah. Ari hasanah mah hartina > > > hade, contona bae adzan make pengeras sora, hade tah pan? Shalat taraweh, > > > jaman Nabi saw mah disebut qiyamul lail, tapi dicontoan ku jaman > > > khalifahna pan? Jadi sae oge pan, malah aya contona. Tapi soal tahlilan, > > > dina hartina 'pesta', komo memper kana syirk, jadi ajang maen judi, riya > > > jste, nya wayahna meureun kasebut dzalallah. > > > > > > Kitu manawi nun... > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > -Yadi Supriadi Wendy- > > > .:Sent using my +62 899 711 8089 <tel:%2B62%20899%20711%208089> with > > > love:. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Waluya" <waluya2006@> > > > Sender: [email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <http://mc/compose?to=urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 08:58:12 > > > To: <[email protected] <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <http://mc/compose?to=urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > <mailto:urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <http://mc/compose?to=urangsunda%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] pipilueun masalah tahlil Cek kuring > > > > > > > Tatang Sariman <tams_sariman@> wrote: > > > > Tahlil mah kedah satiap waktos, nyaeta ngucapkeun jeung ngalenyepan > > > > sarta ngajirimkeun dina hirup jeung kahirupan anu ayeuna. Tahlil teh > > > > " Laillah haillalloh" eta ucapan tahlil. Anu sok ngarayakeun > > > > kamaotan mah disebat "tahlilan". Tah ieu kalakuan teu dicontokeun ku > > > > Rasullulloh SAW. > > > > > > Haturan Kang/ Ki Tatang Sariman, lawas tara surut-serat di Kusnet. Kuring > > > mah awam lamun perkarana dicandak ka jaman Rasullah SAW mah. Ngan ceuk > > > cenah ieu mah, Sholat Taraweh berjamaah di Bulan Puasa oge, saleresna mah > > > teu aya di jaman Kangjeng Nabi mah. Sholat Taraweh berjamaah cenah mah > > > dianjurkeun ku Umar bin Chattab waktos anjeunna jadi Khalifah. Tah lamun > > > ningali eta, geuning aya ritual nu tadina mah teu aya. Tapi ketang > > > nyanggakeun kanu langkung terang.... > > > > > > > > > WLY > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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