Hi Daniel,

we add the new zones configured with the "default" template. When a
customer is requesting DNSSEC we move the zone to the "signed" template.

Could that be the problem?

Best regards,
Thomas

On 05.03.19 19:32, [email protected] wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> On 2019-03-05 18:31, Thomas E. wrote:
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> we tried the described approach, and it worked fine for zones, that we
>> already executed "knotc zone-ksk-submitted xx.tld" for.
>>
>> For freshly added zones however the "knotc zone-status xx.tld" returns
>> a status that indicates that the parent DS query has not been
>> scheduled:
>>
> 
> Are the freshly added zones configured with template 'signed'?
> 
> Daniel
> 
>> [xx.tld.] role: master | serial: 1551549547 | transaction: none |
>> freeze: no | load: not scheduled | refresh: not scheduled | update:
>> not scheduled | expiration: not scheduled | journal flush: not
>> scheduled | notify: not scheduled | DNSSEC re-sign: +19h26m42s | NSEC3
>> resalt: +27D2h42m39s | parent DS query: not scheduled
>>
>> Also our logs do not show any attempts of parent DS queries for the
>> affected zone, only for the zones that we previously executed
>> "zone-ksk-submitted" for.
>>
>> Right now we add the zone using a default template (which does not
>> make use of DNSSEC), because not all of our zones should be signed
>> right away and switch the template to a signed template for specific
>> zones, that we actually want to sign.
>>
>> Here's an excerpt from our current config:
>>
>> remote:
>>   - id: local-resolver
>>     address: 192.168.1.2
>>
>> submission:
>>   - id: resolver
>>     parent: local-resolver
>>
>> policy:
>>   - id: shared
>>     algorithm: RSASHA256
>>     ksk-size: 2048
>>     zsk-size: 1024
>>     zsk-lifetime: 1d
>>     ksk-lifetime: 2d
>>     ksk-shared: true
>>     ksk-submission: resolver
>>     nsec3: true
>>
>> template:
>>   - id: default
>>     storage: "/var/lib/knot"
>>     semantic-checks: on
>>     global-module: mod-stats
>>     master: primary
>>     notify: secondaries
>>     acl: [primary, secondaries]
>>
>>   - id: signed
>>     dnssec-signing: on
>>     dnssec-policy: shared
>>     acl: [primary, secondaries]
>>     notify: secondaries
>>
>>
>> Maybe we get something fundamentally wrong, but from our experience
>> there is no DS scheduling without an initial manual intervention via
>> "knotc zone-ksk-submitted xx.tld".
>>
>> Any hint would be appreciated!
>>
>> Thank a lot,
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 05.03.19 um 11:49 schrieb Daniel Stirnimann:
>>> Hello Thomas,
>>>
>>> On 05.03.19 11:24, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> Will the "knotc zone-ksk-submitted" command still be necessary for the
>>>> initial DS lookup when signing a new zone? Or is the "ksk-submission"
>>>> statement sufficient in any case?
>>>
>>> The use of "ksk-submission" is sufficient.
>>>
>>>  From the knot documentation:
>>> "At this point new KSK has to be submitted to the parent zone. Knot
>>> detects the updated parent’s DS record automatically (and waits for
>>> additional period of the DS’s TTL before retiring the old key) if parent
>>> DS check is configured, otherwise the operator must confirm it manually
>>> with knotc zone-ksk-submitted"
>>> https://www.knot-dns.cz/docs/2.7/singlehtml/
>>>
>>> I've never used "knotc zone-ksk-submitted". Maybe it's useful if you
>>> have a broken trust chain to your zone and in some scenario you might
>>> want to tell knot to go ahead...
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>

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