Hi Libor,
sorry for taking so long to come back to you, but we tried our best to
trace down our previous steps to make this issue reproducible.
We found out, that the described behavior does not affect all of the
domains that we wanted to sign. We made this assumption based on a small
set of domains that we used to test real-world DNSSEC integration with
and that we frequently enabled and disabled signing for over and over
again, while we were figuring out how we can use knot.
To clarify this point: New domains, that have not been signed previously
are not affected by this!
The steps to reproduce the described problem are:
1. Set up a knot 2.7.6 using a config without (!) a submission section
2. Add an unsigned zone to the config file and reload knot
3. Set the template of the zone to "signed" and reload knot
4. Execute "knotc zone-status" for the domain, and you should be able to
observe the following state: "parent DS query: not scheduled"
5. Set the template of the zone to make it unsigned again and reload knot
6. Add the submission section to the knot.conf and reload knot
7. Set the template of the zone to "signed" and reload knot
8. Execute "knotc zone-status" for the domain, and you should be able to
still observe the following state: "parent DS query: not scheduled"
This seems to indicate that there is some persistent state, that remains
for the zones that have been removed from the signed template, and that
this state actually prevents the parent DS query from being scheduled
(ever?) again.
I hope that this description gives you enough insight to evaluate the
behavior.
Best regards,
Thomas
Am 06.03.19 um 18:03 schrieb libor.peltan:
Hi Thomas,
I'm still not sure what goes wrong in your case. The setup looks good
and when I try something similar, it works for me - the DS check is
planned whenever I add a zone to "signed" policy.
Could you please send us the logs of Knot? (Also shuffle with the
configured log verbosity first, e.g. like:
log:
- target: "stdout"
any: "info"
). Thanks much!
Libor
Dne 06.03.19 v 16:47 Daniel Salzman napsal(a):
Hi,
On 3/5/19 10:14 PM, Thomas wrote:
Hi Daniel,
we add the new zones configured with the "default" template. When a
customer is requesting DNSSEC we move the zone to the "signed" template.
Could that be the problem?
It shouldn't be. But as you use shared key, it's possible there is a
bug in the code.
We will investigate your setup...
Daniel
Best regards,
Thomas
On 05.03.19 19:32, [email protected] wrote:
Hello Thomas,
On 2019-03-05 18:31, Thomas E. wrote:
Hello Daniel,
we tried the described approach, and it worked fine for zones, that we
already executed "knotc zone-ksk-submitted xx.tld" for.
For freshly added zones however the "knotc zone-status xx.tld" returns
a status that indicates that the parent DS query has not been
scheduled:
Are the freshly added zones configured with template 'signed'?
Daniel
[xx.tld.] role: master | serial: 1551549547 | transaction: none |
freeze: no | load: not scheduled | refresh: not scheduled | update:
not scheduled | expiration: not scheduled | journal flush: not
scheduled | notify: not scheduled | DNSSEC re-sign: +19h26m42s | NSEC3
resalt: +27D2h42m39s | parent DS query: not scheduled
Also our logs do not show any attempts of parent DS queries for the
affected zone, only for the zones that we previously executed
"zone-ksk-submitted" for.
Right now we add the zone using a default template (which does not
make use of DNSSEC), because not all of our zones should be signed
right away and switch the template to a signed template for specific
zones, that we actually want to sign.
Here's an excerpt from our current config:
remote:
- id: local-resolver
address: 192.168.1.2
submission:
- id: resolver
parent: local-resolver
policy:
- id: shared
algorithm: RSASHA256
ksk-size: 2048
zsk-size: 1024
zsk-lifetime: 1d
ksk-lifetime: 2d
ksk-shared: true
ksk-submission: resolver
nsec3: true
template:
- id: default
storage: "/var/lib/knot"
semantic-checks: on
global-module: mod-stats
master: primary
notify: secondaries
acl: [primary, secondaries]
- id: signed
dnssec-signing: on
dnssec-policy: shared
acl: [primary, secondaries]
notify: secondaries
Maybe we get something fundamentally wrong, but from our experience
there is no DS scheduling without an initial manual intervention via
"knotc zone-ksk-submitted xx.tld".
Any hint would be appreciated!
Thank a lot,
Thomas
Am 05.03.19 um 11:49 schrieb Daniel Stirnimann:
Hello Thomas,
On 05.03.19 11:24, Thomas E. wrote:
Will the "knotc zone-ksk-submitted" command still be necessary
for the
initial DS lookup when signing a new zone? Or is the
"ksk-submission"
statement sufficient in any case?
The use of "ksk-submission" is sufficient.
From the knot documentation:
"At this point new KSK has to be submitted to the parent zone. Knot
detects the updated parent’s DS record automatically (and waits for
additional period of the DS’s TTL before retiring the old key) if
parent
DS check is configured, otherwise the operator must confirm it
manually
with knotc zone-ksk-submitted"
https://www.knot-dns.cz/docs/2.7/singlehtml/
I've never used "knotc zone-ksk-submitted". Maybe it's useful if you
have a broken trust chain to your zone and in some scenario you might
want to tell knot to go ahead...
Daniel
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