FYI, this functionality is how SOPAC2 works. The tags added to the records become part of the metadata associated with the item.
I recommend the person interested in this functionality look into using SOPAC2 which is also open sourse (yay!) and I wonder also if it would be worthwhile for developers (Ian?) to look at how SOPAC2 works for some ideas. As I understand, John Blyberg (developer of SOPAC2) uses Insurge to accomplish this. So, incorporating just the Insurge part of SOPAC2 might be a possibility (said the non-developer who wanted to believe that everything was so simple!). Lori =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lori Bowen Ayre // Library Technology Consultant The Galecia Group // www.galecia.com (707) 763-6869 // [email protected] <[email protected]>Specializing in open source ILS solutions, RFID, filtering, workflow optimization, and materials handling =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 2011/5/25 Ian Walls <[email protected]> > The fundamental problem with making Tags searchable as keywords is that > they are not part of the MARC records at all, and since Zebra builds it's > search indexes solely off the MARC, there is currently no way to inject the > tags. > > So, our options are: > > 1. Put the tags into MARC fields, and index those (probably a bad idea for > any kind of record interoperability, and many catalogers will hate the idea > of the public being able to edit the MARC record) > > 2. Put the tags into a different metadata format and index them separately, > mixing in the results with the results for MARC fields. Complicated, but > flexible. > > 3. Have a separate search mechanism for tags. Not very integrated, and if > it's MySQL-based, will bog down like Koha did before Zebra. > > I'm open to other ideas for how we could make tags more usable in Koha; > they're a great feature, they just need to be made more accessible. > > > -Ian > > 2011/5/24 G. Laws <[email protected]> > >> When you have moderation turned on a staff person has to review and >> approve/reject the tags, so that's one place they are visible from the staff >> interface. >> >> That's also one of the features we want to improve. Right now there is no >> mechanism for editing the tags that someone posts. We want to have them >> editable to remove, as one example, profanity from an otherwise acceptable >> tag string, or to correct good, but <gregariously> misspelled, tags. >> >> If you go to the OPAC tag cloud, of course, you can see the tags listed >> and select a tag to see what it's been applied to, but that's not really >> like a search term. >> >> Greg >> ================ >> >> >> On 05/24/2011 03:41 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote: >> >> Seems like that could be the best option, Greg. Though generally I equate >> tags with keywords and would think they should be searchable one in the >> same. >> >> Is the only way to see tags when you're logged in as a patron, and >> looking at your own list? >> Also, reiterating what I asked before- has anyone tried the LibraryThing >> for Libraries tagging option? That might be the best way to go, though it >> does have a price. >> >> CM >> >> 2011/5/24 G. Laws <[email protected]> >> >>> Maybe a tag should be a keyword search option in advanced search? >>> >>> Greg >>> ----------------------------- >>> >>> >>> On 05/24/2011 03:28 PM, G. Laws wrote: >>> >>> We are considering, to be a bit more specific, funding improvements to >>> the tagging feature, and would happily welcome participative assistance in >>> this regard with any interested parties. If you are interested we can >>> discuss it with ByWater Solutions, with which we have been talking about >>> enhancements, or via direct email. >>> >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> -------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> On 05/24/2011 03:08 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote: >>> >>> Interesting- fixed the OPAC configuration, so thanks for that. >>> >>> I'm also finding that although you can tag an item, you still can't >>> search for that tag and get any results. Seems silly to me that tagging >>> would be worth anything in Koha at all if that's the case. Maybe I'm just >>> not understanding the feature, but I would think that implementing tags >>> *should* be there to make searching more robust. >>> >>> Has anyone had much luck with the LibraryThing for Libraries function? >>> My institution is thinking about getting it to fix this tagging issue. If >>> anyone is currently using it, I'd be curious to know whether or not it >>> allows you to find the tags in a catalog search. >>> >>> Caitlin M >>> >>> 2011/5/24 G. Laws <[email protected]> >>> >>>> I don't think you can tag from the staff interface. We've talked about >>>> doing some tagging enhancements; so maybe this will be a good discussion >>>> topic. >>>> >>>> However, you clearly have a separate problem with tagging from the OPAC >>>> that needs to be resolved. You have to enable tagging in the staff >>>> interface. In the OPAC configuration there are several settings, like >>>> tagsenabled and tagsmoderated, etc. Check those. >>>> >>>> Of interest, however, I now see that the text for tagsenabled says it >>>> enables both patrons and staff to tag, so I don't know what's with that. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Greg Lawson >>>> Rolling Hills Consolidated Library >>>> 1912 N. Belt Highway >>>> St. Joseph, MO 64506816-232-5479 x2303 >>>> >>>> ----------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/24/2011 01:48 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey all, >>>> >>>> How does Tagging work in Koha? Can it be done through the >>>> administrative end? I can't find a section for it, other than from the >>>> patron side. When I try to add tags to certain books as a patron, they do >>>> not save and the item does not appear when a search is done for that tag >>>> after. >>>> >>>> Suggestions? >>>> >>>> CM >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Caitlin McGurk >>>> *Librarian >>>> The Schulz Library >>>> The Center for Cartoon Studies <http://www.cartoonstudies.org> >>>> [email protected]* >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Koha mailing list >>>> http://[email protected]://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Caitlin McGurk >>> *Librarian >>> The Schulz Library >>> The Center for Cartoon Studies <http://www.cartoonstudies.org> >>> [email protected]* >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Caitlin McGurk >> *Librarian >> The Schulz Library >> The Center for Cartoon Studies <http://www.cartoonstudies.org> >> [email protected]* >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Greg Lawson >> Rolling Hills Consolidated Library >> 1912 N. 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