Interesting. It sounds like they don't have that whole bidirectional thing going right yet. Thanks for the additional info.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Jason M. Burds <[email protected]> wrote: > > 1. We are testing out the changes mentioned. > 2. We have TechLogic pads on our self-checks and they are wonderful. > The staff pads are Bibliotheca and are weak. > 3. We had the gates setup so they would only alarm when people left > the building. This resulted in 1 out of every 100 items with security > turned on to trigger the alarm. We had to change the gate to alarm when > patrons come in the building and leave the building to get them to detect > and alarm at a 75% rate. > > > > I know it makes no sense at all, but Bibliotheca gave the response that > people were moving too fast to properly trigger the alarm. > > > > Directional alarming has a sensor that triggers the entry. It then checks > the security of the items. The gates are either too slow or we need to > require patrons to walk in slow motion when they leave the building. > > > > When you put on Bidirectional, alarming it disables the sensors and checks > for security first. > > > > Either way it is something to be aware of when dealing with Bibliotheca, > and their gates. > > > > > > *Jason Burds* > > I.T. Supervisor > > Carnegie-Stout Public Library <http://www.dubuque.lib.ia.us/> > > (563)589-4229 > > > > *From:* Lori Ayre [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 2:36 PM > *To:* Jason M. Burds > *Cc:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [Koha] Koha and RFID > > > > Hi Jason, > > > > You are describing some things that suggest to me you have issues with > your implementation. The limitations you are describing are not common to > all RFID implementations. > > > > 1. SIP connections flooding your system: Not typical. Sounds like others > on this thread have some ideas for you. This would be a Koha issue and not > an RFID issue. > > > > 2. RFID pads are not powerful and require shuffling: This is a problem > withe product you are using. You didn't state whether you were talking > about the pads used by staff or the ones used in the self-check machines. > If staff, I'd harangue Bibliotheca until they get you some pads you are > happy with. If it's the self-check machines....I have heard from other > Bibliotheca customers that their tabletop units don't have good pads. If > they are unsatisfactory, again, harass your vendor until you are > satisfied. Did you put any kind of performance requirement in your RFP? > That's what I do with clients. That way if items aren't getting read as > promised, it is on the vendor to fix it. > > > > 3. DVDs/Stingrays/Bidirectional Gates: This makes no sense. I wonder if > you are not understanding something about how direction gates work. If you > have set up your gates s they only alarm when a patron is ENTERING the > library, then the gates will simply stop alarming unless two conditions > exist: the gates detect someone walking into the library and they also > detect an unchecked out item (which may or may not be associated with the > person who is walking through the gates). Gates detect RFID tags up to 18 > inches or so in all directions. All the directionality does is control > whether the alarm will sound or not. And, there are two ways to determine > directionality. One is for the gates to set up two seeing eyes (lasers or > whatever) so that when the laser beam is broken in the right order, the > gates know someone walked in. There's another technology used as well > which uses radar. Anyway, this is probably not the reason your DVDs aren't > being detected. Any discs with metal on one side are simply not doing to > get detected. And if you have more than one Stingray on a set of discs > (e.g. books on CD), they will probably conflict with one another and render > all the tags useless. > > > > 4. Now, that conforms with my understanding! > > > > Hope the above info helps. > > > > Lori Ayre > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Jason M. Burds <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We are in the end stages of a long and painful RFID migration. To answer > your question, SIP makes checkouts and check-ins work much faster. > > We chose Bibliotheca for our vendor. They do have a Circ manager software > that will connect with SIP and allow for multiple items checking in and > out. Our staff still has to bring up the patrons account in Koha to verify > holds and overdues. There are many bugs with it but overall it functions > most of the time. > > Warning about Bibliotheca and Koha > 1. SIP connections are tremendous and will eventually lockup your SIP > server with flood messages. We have to restart SIP server every morning, > to clear out log files. > 2. RFID pads are not powerful and will disappoint you, expect to have to > shuffle items to get them to read. > 3. Gates cannot detect DVD's with Stingray tags when the gate is set to > only alarm on outgoing traffic. You need bidirectional detection. This > may be important on how you tag your collection and how you plan your > implementation. > 4. Inventory device needs to run on Windows 7. Good luck with anyone with > a new PC in the last 2 years. OS on inventory device is an old windows > palm OS. We are still waiting for a replacement for one that came bad out > of the box, 2 months after receiving it. > > Not to be overly negative about them, they do have a few good support > staff and a programmer David who is excellent. > > In addition, we have Tech Logic self-checks that are near perfect on > detection and RFID pads are 50% stronger. Makes me wish we would have > spent the money and went with them 100%. > > Good luck and if you have any questions let me know. > > Jason Burds > I.T. Supervisor > Carnegie-Stout Public Library > (563)589-4229 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Koha [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liz Rea > Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 1:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha and RFID > > It would be awesome if all replies to this email could come to the list, > so that we can make a FAQ for the website. > > Cheers, > Liz Rea > > On 31/12/14 07:04, Keener, Nancy wrote: > > Our library is considering RFID in our near future. Are there any Koha > libraries out there using RFID? Does SIP limit RFID functionality? And > finally, what vendor did you choose? > > > > Nancy Keener > > Systems Librarian > > I.T.O.S.C. 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