----- Original Message ----- From: John Clancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 6:19 PM Subject: [Cuba SI] Rob: Gore identifies New Rogue State. Melbourne thoughts -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> Click for more information on how eGroups members save with beMANY! http://click.egroups.com/1/8025/0/_/30563/_/968887245/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Rob: Gore identifies New Rogue State. Melbourne thoughts Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "robert rodvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BCTV NEWS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CBC POLITICS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CBC THIS MORNING" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CBCNEWS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CBS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CNN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "lLOYD AXWORTHY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Don Boudria, MP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jean \"Pepper Guy\" Chretien, MP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sheila Copps, MP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bill Graham, MP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Anne McClellan, MP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: GORE IDENTIFIES NEW ROGUE STATE Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 NOTE: Gore might also have pointed out what the ruling class media consistenly fail to point out, that the Chretien cabalsters - Bilderbergers and Trilateralists - owe their allegiance not to ordinary Canadians, but to the ruling class of elitists whose goal is to run the world for their own benefit: the natural order of things. That is why they willingly join the bombers from the Pentagon; as the ruling underbosses they have their role to play, and killing babies in the Balkans is just another ordinary feature of the thug states and the cappi di tutti capi that rule the world. RR GUARDIAN (London) Tuesday August 15, 2000 GORE IDENTIFIES NEW ROGUE STATE Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles Gore won a standing ovation as the Democratic convention kicked off by telling a delighted audience that the United States had become "the greatest terrorist and the largest rogue state" in the world. He was also applauded loudly after announcing that today "only corporate America enjoys representation". This was Gore Vidal, it should be said, former Democratic politician, novelist, playwright, historian, mischief-maker and cousin of young Al. He was addressing a full house at the Leo Baeck temple just opposite that symbol of corporate authority, the Getty Centre, as the delegates assembled for the first day of the convention. Vidal lamented that "50 years ago I used to be the only Gore" and used his presentation to a "town hall" meeting organised by the magazine the Nation to urge whoever was the next president to use his entire first term of office to "tame the American military". He attacked the Pentagon as a major reason for the collapse of the democratic system in the United States and for the waste of public money. "Congress has been hijacked by corporate America and its enforcers," Vidal said. "Our empire is now the greatest terrorist of all." He said that since the Soviet Union "unsportingly disbanded", the world's 1bn Muslims have been demonised as wild fanatics in order to justify the continuation of military spending. Since 1946, he said, $7.1 trillion had been spent on defence while national debts totalled $3.6 trillion. Vidal also attacked the American drug laws saying that "we started the damn country" to get away from such restrictions and suggested that the founding fathers had included many laudanum addicts. "Anything taken for joy is against God's will," had become the justification for the drugs laws, he said. People had forgotten the effects of prohibition, he said: "We have become the United States of Amnesia." He accused the US of "swaggering round the world smashing countries like Colombia" and finished his address to a standing ovation and cries of "run, Gore, run!" from the audience. Tom Hayden, now a Californian senator but arrested at the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago during the anti-war demonstrations, voiced his support for the thousands who have already taken to the streets of Los Angeles in some of the rolling demonstrations taking place during the week. "The Democratic party should not try and stigmatise the people who raised hell in Seattle and gave birth to a new generation of radicalism," said Mr Hayden. "More and more people are feeling that there is no other way than to get out on the streets. It is a great blessing instead of a danger to the city of Los Angeles. Everyone in this room was someone real and vibrant before they became middle-aged." Jesse Jackson Jr, 35, congressman and delegate at the convention, said that people now believed that they had a right to a gun but not a right to a proper education. A few miles away his father addressed a rally outside Loews hotel in Santa Monica to call for union rights for the hotel workers there. The gatherings were just two of dozens due to be held this week by those who suggest that the real issues are not being addressed by the convention. The first of the major demonstrations, in support of the journalist and former Black Panther Mumia Abu-Jamal who has been on death row in Pennsylvania since 1981, took place on Sunday as did a large picket of Gap. There were protests yesterday to support abortion rights and highlight "corporate shame". ====================== *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. Feel free to distribute widely but PLEASE acknowledge the source. *** ******* X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 14 06:40:45 2000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <Undisclosed [EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "robert rodvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw:Re: s11 info & thoughts Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 -----Original Message----- From: Alexandra M KELLY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ren yellam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:34 PM Subject: Re: s11 info & thoughts you should check out www.melbourne.indymedia.org for more info.. and publish this update terry! just click the publish link... a tired alex On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, ren yellam wrote: G'day all, Yesterday Melbourne witnessed a credible stand against corporate led and defined globalisation. The mainstream media (including the increasingly corporate Australian Broadcasting Corporation) would have most people believe otherwise. But we're used to that by now. It's not surprising that those whose positions depend on the definitions of globalisation put forward by the WEF (and those like them) report these events in the way they do. A bit of more up to date info first. This morning (12th sep.) police stepped up their intimidatory methods in order to secure entry to WEF delegates. Although the numbers of protesters this (early) morning were down and some entry points were practically open and 'unblockaded' the police decided to don riot gear and make a vicious assault on an entrance where there was a significant protester prescence. As well as using shields and the ussual 'riot' paraphernalia, this "civil army" beat and assualted with batons, protesters sitting on the ground in front of the entry point. Reports so far are of two protesters needing hospital treatment. We also have reports this morning of a member of the constabulary suffering from a heart attack. No contextual info has yet surfaced around this situation. Also, regarding yesterday's action, a talkback caller reported that a senior police officer seemed to view the confusion associated with the crush surrounding the car of West Australian Premier, Richard Court, as an opportunity to brush up on his boxing skills. The caller, who was at the protest with her daughter, watched as the officer deliberately reached through the police line, fixed on the daughter and delivered a full-on punch to the face. Victoria's finest indeed. Later this morning, the Victorian Trades Hall Council has organised a rally and march around the Crown complex. Tens of thousands are expected to be a part of that action. One of the funniest things I saw yesterday though was the ferriying of delegates away from the crown casino by police patrol boats along the Yarra River. I was standing on a bridge as they passed under. The suited delegates, standing crammed into a small boat, being buffeted by a choppy river the antarctic winds of Melbourne looked up bewildered at us and at what was happening around them. They looked embarrassed, ashamed and undignifiied. The sight was hilarious. Bewilderment is all that seems to emerge from the mouths of delegates and conference organisers. In incredulous, yet patronising tones, they are saturating the media with inanities like; "I believe in the right to protest in a democracy, but I believe that these demonstrators are misguided and confused. If they'd just look closely at what the WEF is about, they'd see that we want the same things." I think there are two elements to this stock and monotonous response. One is that they are just being disingenuous and two, is that they truly are bewildered. They can't understand where the opposition comes from. They truly seem to believe their own rhetoric. One delegate actually proposed this morning on radio that the acquisition of a mobile phone by a person in a third world country would be a phenomenal change in that person's life and that access to the new IT goods and services of this age would do the same. Unfortunately, the reporter didn't ask if the person could also eat the mobile phone, seeing that she's probably starving. But then the idiot would probably say something like, "Well, she could order pizza." "Trickle-down" is fact to them. The only variable with trickle-down for them telling us WHEN this "world prosperity" will benefit all. They continually quote increases in productivity and GNP in Third World countries as evidnce of the benefits of globalisation but never make the distinction between that increase and the growing gap between rich and poor in those regions. They never adequately respond to the proposition that those GNP increases don't go to the people but into the coffers of global corporations, which are quite often based in other (First World) countries anyway. Another indication of their bewilderment and complete incapacity to understand where the protesters are coming from is their FEAR of the protesters. Despite the fact that there was never any reason to believe that s11 in Melbourne would be anything like the WTO in Seattle, the WEF organisers have been very busy for months preparing security. It's funny isn't it, when the organisers employ the same PR company that puts the pretty spin on the olympic games to drum up the fear of protests (we've heard the catchy phrase 'The Battle for Seattle' many times), and then start to believe their own dubious propaganda. Australia has, historically, protested peacefully. When hundreds of thousands marched during the Vietnam moratorium marches, non-violence was the key. Non violence is inclusive. The FEAR is also evidenced by the extremes the organisers, the government and police have gone to in the lead up to s11. Protesters were faced with nine foot high barriers yesterday morning, stretching for kilometres aroung the casino complex. The casino has turned into a fortress. I believe that this reaction has supplied the s11 protest, and anti-corporate globalisers with a huge symbolic victory. The Crown Casino over these three days is a fortress in which the rich and powerful "debate", discuss and lobby each other. They'll be doing some deals, making some valuable contacts, getting drunk together and generally cementing the relationships that narrowly focussed power depends on. Outside the casino are us. The vast majority stand in the rain outside, chanting and chatting, laughing and singing. We still believe, but we don't believe in those inside. Can they hear us inside? One man said he'd be "happy to meet a delegation". But he baulked at coming outside to mix with the people he (bizarrely) claims to represent and be working for. It's warm inside I'm sure. Outside we stand facing the men and women of the civil army, the police. Their role, usually trumpeted as the protection of the people seems turned on its head. The powerful have the law on their side. Which isn't at all surprising because those who write the law are inside as well. The symbolic victory. The World Economic Forum in Melbourne is our world system in a microcosm. The lawmakers and decision makers and the looters who pay for access, sit in warmth and all brainwash each other into thinking that their greed can actually help the world. Outside the people chant, they ask questions. Deep down, the boys (as most of them are) inside, probably haven't completely succeeded in deluding themselves. They hear the voices from outside, just for a minute, but somehow, the hum of airconditioning drowns them out. "It must have been the wind." they say. In the end, what gets done by the WEF at these 'conferences' is fairly insignificant in the scheme of things. We all probably have an idea of what conferences are like. Old acquaintances get drunk, they don't go to that many of the meetings or debates or events or speeches. It's a little holiday in sunny (Ha Ha) Melbourne. These looters do their real work every day of the year. When they leave here they'll go back to their headquarters and go back to business as usual. Which is, exploiting workers, lobbying governments and collecting millions (and often billions) of dollars for themselves. And because they do it every day, so do we. We have to LIVE a blockade. We have to shut out from our lives what they push that's bad for the world. Simple isn't it. And we have to continue to tell as many people as possible why what they do isn't helping anyone but themselves. s11 should go all year, not just for 3 days. Their own symbols can be their own undoing. salut - love ren "The task of the anarchist philosopher is not to prove the immanence of a Golden Age, but to justify the value of believing in its possibility." "the poet is necessarily an anarchist." both from Herbert Read in "Anarchy and Order" " JC Cuba SI - Imperialism NO! Information and discussion about Cuba. Socialism or death! Patria o muerte! Venceremos! http://www.egroups.com/group/cubasi Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Change Delivery Options: http://www.egroups.com/mygroups
