BBC Monitoring
Russian Communist leader says government policy must change
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Source: Russia TV, Moscow, in Russian 1730 gmt 9 Jan 01

Russian Communist leader Gennadiy Zyuganov said the government must
change its policies, particularly with regard to privatization.
Interviewed by Russia TV's "Details" programme on 9 January, he said the
government should ensure everyone has a decent income before paying off
Russia's debts. Zyuganov said the Communist Party was drawing up its
policies for the next six months. He said he thought President Putin
agreed with him on some issues. The following is an excerpt from the TV
report:

[Presenter] This is the "Details programme". Good evening. The holidays
that members of parliament have are the envy of any schoolchild. The
schoolchildren go back tomorrow. The MPs have another week off. That
refers to more or less all the factions, with the possible exception of
the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF). We learnt today
that the CPRF intends to campaign for a change in economic policy. Big
changes are coming, according to the leader of the Communist faction,
Gennadiy Zyuganov. Today our guest in the "Details" studio is Gennadiy
Zyuganov. Good evening, Gennadiy Andreyevich.

[Zyuganov] Good evening.

[Presenter] You talk about changes. Do you have some information about a
major coming reshuffle in the Russian government, for instance?

[Zyuganov] No, but I think the new year, the cold winter, the new
century and the new millennium commit us to serious changes...

On the other hand, last year's policies, including the attempts to wipe
out social guarantees, to push through the sale of the land and policies
on natural monopolies, as well as a whole series of other measures
entirely directed against the people ran into stiff resistance, both
within the State Duma and in the workplaces. This refers in particular
to the new labour law code proposed by the government. These things
compel us to consider qualitatively new economic policies.

On the other hand, at our congress we proposed a new version of a policy
along these lines. We are currently completing the drafting of our
legislation proposals. Today we debated all the main measures we are to
carry out in the next few months. We thus have a clear-cut programme.

When you talk about holidays, some people did take time off, but we
continued our meetings with working people, scientists and experts. Our
main council, the presidium, is to meet at the beginning of next week
and will map out our policies for the next six months.

[Presenter] Gennadiy Andreyevich, you said that some policies, such as
restructuring the natural monopolies and passing a new labour law code
through the State Duma ran into major resistance. Yet I think that
people were saying all year that the State Duma was supportive as never
before of all the new bills and proposals put by government. Isn't that
right?

[Zyuganov] Not quite. The attempt to sell off land was turned down. No
decision was made on the natural monopolies as [Unified Energy System of
Russia chief executive Anatoliy] Chubays said. The proposals on the
labour law code were more or less taken back and they will not be
proposed again in the next few months. On the social guarantees issue,
we successfully managed to have some decisions put back.

I also think that the government failed to look forward so as to make an
intelligent decision on the budget. We proposed that Rb200-300bn be
included in the budget from the start and if that had been done they
would not faced with the demand to pay off debts immediately, as they
now have...

I believe that the structure, the management and the political policies
of the government should be radically changed...

Putin and I spent almost three hours discussing these problems on the
eve of the New Year and I am certain that Vladimir Vladimirovich will
have to make some very responsible decisions in the next few weeks.

[Presenter] On the government membership?

[Zyuganov] That will be one of them.

[Presenter] Is this something you got from what Putin said or was it
just the atmosphere or spirit of the meeting?

[Zyuganov] This is something I realized from the issues we actually
discussed. We looked into the question of construction... We talked
about the problem of the railways and attempts to break up the natural
monopolies. We all realized that the time for these issues has come and
they have to resolve them...

The government will have to change its policies, otherwise it will run
into enormous difficulties and you can see it now...

[Presenter] We are entering a new political year.

[Zyuganov] Yes.

[Presenter] And it is possible, and there are persistent rumours to this
effect, that the State Duma will finally pass a Land Code. What are your
views on that?

[Zyuganov] We discussed this at our recent meeting. We are categorically
against the sale, the free purchase and sale of agricultural land... We
are insisting that the article on the purchase and sale of agricultural
land be removed from the Land Code and if it is put to us with the
article removed it is quite possible that the Duma will pass it...

[Presenter] What about the president?

[Zyuganov] He is thinking it over. At our recent meeting he said he
would not insist on the land purchase and sale and I think it is quite
possible that the government will itself remove this article from the
Land Code...

I am sure that the attempts to sell off the railways, the electricity
networks, the last remaining oil and gas pipelines, the
telecommunications system, the land and forests will continue.

[Presenter] Perhaps the problem here is that there is no law and
everything becomes criminalized. Things are sold but without any
legislation, any taxation or any strict accounting.

[Zyuganov] Let us punish the people who do these things, like selling
off industrial concerns cheaply... I think the government and the
president should respond rigorously and should take the appropriate
action. It is some time since I put in a submission on this but I see
that they intend to do nothing about it and by hook or by crook will
sell off these businesses to people they rely on...

[Presenter] What we are talking about here is people doing exactly what
they like, I think, Gennadiy Andreyevich. But surely, not paying one's
debts, say, to the Paris Club, is in the same category, wouldn't you
say?

[Zyuganov] Sorry, but all that is needed is to set up the necessary
machinery to do so. If you look at what actually happens in the world
with countries in the same situation as ours, you see that none of them
are in a hurry to pay their debts. All that is needed is to negotiate an
agreement and determine the procedures for repayment. What is needed is
a new policy.

[Presenter] Could you say briefly whether you recommend the government
pay its debts or wait a while?

[Zyuganov] I am calling on them to pursue an intelligent policy on the
debts and on debt repayment. They should not be in any hurry and should
first ensure everyone has a decent minimum income and that teachers,
doctors, engineers, military personnel and hardworking people get a good
salary, and should also support our own producers of goods.

[Presenter] Thank you, Gennadiy Andreyevich...

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