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SPANISH PILOT'S TESTIMONY, AGAIN!
"CARTHAGO DELENDA EST!" DOCUMENTS
Spanish Fighter Pilots Admit NATO Purposely
Attacks Civilian Targets
By Jose Luis Morales, Articulo 20, #30, June 14, 1999
NO, we did not change our mind and turned to counter-information, and..
NO, we do not publish this just to claim "We told you so" - also because we
are just going do do that on the next update - but...
YES, we too want to preserve this article from being deliberately
"forgotten" behind the curtain of silence created by NATO, the US government
and its European "client states", and ...
YES, this is media war, simply because...
YES, this IS W.W.3 for you all...
Carthago Delenda Est - July 2000
Foreword by Venik
Many of you probably have already read this article
from the Spanish Articulo, based on the interview
with Capt. de la Hoz - a pilot of the Spanish Air
Force, who participated in the Operation "Allied
Force."
From the very beginning, this article became
somewhat of a rarity on the Internet: many people
talked about it, but not too many could find it and
read it. And the reason for that wasn't the fact that
the article was originally published in Spanish: an
English translation was available within days.
As if by "miracle," the interview with Capt. de la Hoz
circumvented all major news agencies. It doesn't
mean that the article can't be found in the archives of,
say, ABC News, after some searching. As Russians
say: "One who searches will always find." It's that
just the "Articulo 20" article was never given a
chance to attract much public attention.
Just as CNNs and BBCs of this world can create a
huge scandal out of nothing, they can turn a huge
scandal into nothing just as successfully, if it suits
the
interests of their corporate sponsors (and the
government, of course, which controls the big bucks
of the defense industry.)
I highlighted some particularly interesting things Capt.
de la Hoz said is his
interview. One of these interesting moments is the phrase
about fatal
accidents, "contempt and sanctions" among NATO
servicemen. Capt. de la
Hoz also said: "what I say now is nothing compared to
what I shall have to say
when the time comes."
This confirms the suspicions that, at least, NATO pilots
were forced to
assume some legal obligations not to reveal certain
information related to the
operation "Allied Force." There certainly was nothing in
the media regarding
any fatal accidents involving NATO aircraft or pilots
(except for the two US
pilots who presumably were killed in a car crash outside
Aviano).
A logical question comes to mind: if there were fatal
accidents, how can we
find out about them? The military cannot hide the death
of a pilot from those of
his immediate family members, who have the legal right
to demand an
explanation, even if the military can hide the
circumstances of his death. It
would be logical to assume that, if there were fatal
accidents, as Capt. de la
Hoz says and as statistics suggests, are there any
relatives of dead pilots who
are not satisfied with the military's explanation?
How can the military keep family members of killed pilots
under control? By
force, would be the answer of an authoritarian regime.
However, capitalist
system has a much more powerful tool - money. Signing a
legal obligation to
maintain secrecy and not to bring any legal action
against the military in
exchange for a hefty sum as a compensation for a pilot's
death, would be an
effective way to keep the family members out of the way.
Imagine a hypothetical situation: your husband or father
- a pilot - is killed in
the war. You don't know how, but the military said it was
an accident. You
are presented with the official explanation of this
accident. As a dependant of
the dead pilot you are offered a compensation. A large
sum you can't refuse
because you really need the money and there is no reason
to refuse the
compensation, because you believe the official
explanation.
The military demands that you sign a non-disclosure
agreement related to the
circumstances of your husband's (father's, etc.) death,
because this is required
by national security or for some other important reason.
You sign it and get
your money along with the flag and everything that goes
with it. If you suspect
that the military is lying and there was no accident, you
have no chance in hell
of finding any proof to substantiate your allegations.
You are looking toward years of litigation with a very
predictable outcome:
you lose. Some skeptics say that families would raise
hell if they suspect foul
play of the military's part. I agree entirely, but
everything boils down to one
simple fact: there is no proof. The military has all the
information and you have
only your suspicious.
How in the hell can you prove that your father or husband
was killed in
combat and not in an accident? Where are you going to
find the money to
sustain years of hopeless legal battles with the
military? How are you going to
force the military to reveal the truth if the truth is
securely hidden under "top
secret" status for many years to come?
Recently declassified Soviet archives of the Korean War
era prove that
hundreds more US aircraft were shot down in the war than
the US military
acknowledged. Obviously, the aircraft weren't flying
themselves, so there are
hundreds of dead pilots "unaccounted for." The are
hundreds of relatives of
those pilots still trying to find the truth and now
looking with hope at Russian
historians digging through the massive Soviet archives.
There are dozens of people running around the Internet
saying they were
NATO pilots during the war with Yugoslavia. These people
can be divided
into three categories: liars, propaganda agents, and,
regretfully, real pilots,
who saw only what an ordinary soldier could see in the
war, but, due to their
youth and lack of experience, have the impudence to speak
as if they were in
command of the whole operation.
There were people like that after the Korean War as well.
Some got older
and wiser and are now searching for the truth, while few
others remained
stubborn fools. The Korean war ended nearly
half-a-century ago and the true
extent of American losses is still unknown. Hopefully, in
our age of
information, we will not have to wait that long for the
NATO's "Allied Force"
propaganda bubble to burst.
Venik
The pilots of Spanish planes who
participated in
bombing raids against Yugoslavia do
not feel like
"supermen" nor masters of aerospace.
Quite the
contrary, they say that our forces
play to the tune of
music played by the North Americans,
and accuse
NATO of having honoured with medals
the
bombing of civilian targets, what
they otherwise
name "collateral damages".
Captain Adolfo Luis Martin de la Hoz,
who
returned to Spain at the end of May
after having
participated in the bombings from the
beginning, an
"authentic expert for the dreadful
F-18", the war
plane most often used in the war
strategy of
"scorched land" in the Balkans, is
very categoric:
"First of all, I want to make it
clear that the
majority, I say the majority, of my
colleagues, even
if not all, are against the war in
general and against
this war of barbarity in particular."
Martin de la Hoz says that he and his
colleagues
"are burnt out".
"A few days ago, there appeared in
the papers
certain statements of Commander
Maches
Michavilla, who is now in the air
base at Aviano
with the pilots who replaced us, in
which he said
that our main helper in the air was
mental and
physical health. But I tell you that
our worst
enemies are our own authorities, the
Defence
Minister and all his team, the
members of the
Government, who know nothing about
war and go
along with it without informing
themselves about
anything and, what is gravest, who
are guilty of
lying to the Spanish people through
the papers,
radio and television, foreign
correspondents and
press agencies."
The suspicions that NATO's repeated
bombings of
civilian victims and non-military
targets are not the
result of war "errors", are confirmed
by Captain
Martin de la Hoz:
"Several times our colonel protested
to NATO
chiefs as to why they select targets
which are not
military targets. They threw him out
with curses,
saying that we should know that the
North
Americans would lodge a complaint to
the Spanish
Army, once through Brussels and again
to the
Defence Minister. But there is more,
and I want to
tell it to the whole world: once
there was a coded
order from the North American
military that we
should drop anti-personnel bombs over
the
localities of Prishtine (Pristina)
and Nish (Nis). The
colonel refused it altogether and, a
couple of days
later, the transfer order came. But
what I say now
is nothing compared to what I shall
have to say
when the time comes."
The Spanish military denounces that
"the Spanish
Government not only does not try to
inform
themselves, but that they also accept
the false
reports that are edited for them in
Aviano, where
there is a sort of military press
cabinet in the hands
of North American generals and
functionaries. Ever
since we arrived in Italy - the
captain goes on -
there is no end to humiliations and
insults. The only
order-givers are the North American
generals, and
no one else. We are zeroes, just as
our
replacements are going to be.
But there is still more to that.
Here, they say that
several operations were directed by
Spanish
commanders and pilots. Lies over
lies. All the
missions that we flew, every single
one, were
planned by high U.S. military
authorities. Even
more, they were all planned in
detail, including
attacking planes, targets and type of
ammunition
that we have to drop. We never
directed anything,
and our missions were limited to
flying over the
borders of Macedonia, Albania, Bosnia
and
Slovakia (Slovenia?)."
Government's lies
None of the pilots presently
stationed at Aviano,
who replaced those who went to the
Italian base
shortly before the start of war, last
March 23, were
there with a clear conscience, says
the Spanish
military.
"It is being written to saturation
that the disciplined
and patriotic Spanish pilots -
according to Minister
Eduardo Serra - are concentrating on
the
complexity of their war missions".
But we read so many discrepancies, so
many lies,
that we agreed to not read a single
newspaper until
we return. Our anger is enormous. The
President of
the government, the Minister of
Foreign Affairs and
the Defence Minister are lying
brazenly each time
they talk about the war. Some of us
are of another
opinion and believe that they do not
inform
themselves, because the North
Americans - the
White House, the Pentagon, the CIA,
the Embassy
or military information service,
whoever, do not
inform them about anything. How
should they
inform themselves if our own Javier
Solana has not
informed himself since the war broke
out?
Solana is a puppet who has been put
there by
the Yankees to do what they tell him
he must
do. And so he does, standing straight
before
General Clark when he talks to him,
or better said,
when he issues him the orders that he
has to
implement without delay."
On the subject of manipulation of war
information,
Captain de la Hoz says that "no one
has said
anything about the incidents that
took place in
Aviano, about the disastrous
maintenance of
Spanish machines, about everything,
and about
the constant humiliations to which we
were
subjected from the beginning.
Not that we are cannon fodder. No. We
are
nothing. About the fatal accidents,
the losses
suffered without connection to
combat, the
contempt and the sanctions, not a
word. From
no one!"
For the wrong selection of targets
and humiliations,
the Spanish military are ever more
certain that there
is no alibi.
"We know perfectly well that we are
intervening in
a conflict - says Martin de la Hoz -
which is
rejected by the majority of the
Spanish people and
this is most important for us. But
what they do not
say in any information, commentary or
speech, is
that the Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese
... that we are
there to cover for the North American
generals
who are wheeling and dealing in the
war.
There is no journalist who has the
slightest idea
what is happening in Yugoslavia. They
are
destroying the country, bombing it
with new
weapons, toxic nerve gases, surface
mines
dropped by parachute, bombs
containing
uranium, napalm, sterilization
chemicals,
sprayings to poison the crops and
weapons of
which even we still do not know
anything.
The North Americans are committing
there one of
the biggest barbarities that can be
committed
against humanity. Many very bad
things will be told
in the future about what was
happening there
because, by the way, judging by what
we talked
about with the British and German
officers, it was
designed in order to divide the
Europeans and keep
us subjected for many decades.
Therefore, Captain Martin de la Hoz
is enraged
when there is talk about the costs of
the war. There
should be no doubts, he confirms,
that the military
detached in Aviano are receiving
bonuses which
"multiply by five our salary, but not
considering the
daily expenses and other perquisites.
We could say
that we should be satisfied with what
this war
means economically for each one of
us, but it is not
true, what they give us is chocolate
for the parrots.
This war is going to cost the
Spaniards more than
all the money allocated for culture
in the last five
years. And, even if now no one says
anything
because of the elections, it will
come in a few
months and will be felt in our
pockets. Because this
brutal Yankee-only war, no one's but
the yankees,
is going to be paid by all of us. Be
certain that what
I say is not to exculpate myself and
to intone 'mea
culpa' for having participated in it,
because I will
never be able to forget that what was
being
committed there was one the biggest
savageries of
history."
(source: June 14, 1999 Articulo 20,
#30, by Jose Luis Morales)
From Venik's Aviation Site
http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/de_la_hoz_interview.htm
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