begin quoting Paul G. Allen as of Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 09:59:34PM -0800: > Stewart Stremler wrote: > >Although I also carry a spear for vi, I *like* having emacs around; I > >think it is a wonderful non-unixy editor ideally suited for the people > >who like that sort of editor. > > For basic text files, some scripts, Makefiles, etc. I use vim, though I am > far from proficient (I can search, replace). I've used Emacs/XEmacs in the > past for programming before I got UNIX/Linux IDEs. I use vi for most "simple" jobs, and vim and gvim for code.
> Now for programming I use Understand for C++ for all my C/C++ code. I use > Code Forge for all other code - Java, Perl, HTML, C stuff I need > CVS/RCS/other version control for, etc. I would use Understand for Java for Hm, IDE = Integrated Development Environment to me, not "Interactive Development Environment". An _interactive_ environment is a *shell*. :) > Java code if I had the money to buy it (yea, I have a new job that pays > well, but catching up on bills that have been left to accumulate since 2001 > takes a little time :) ) Ow. May those bills be paid off soon. :) > I often wonder why so many UNIX folks are so against the use of an IDE (not > referring to people here - though there may be some - but many people I've > worked with). Dunno about the rest, but most of 'em are abhorrent because they provide such a crappy editor. I don't _want_ and editor that forces me to grab the mouse, for example. Secondly, most of the IDEs I've worked with don't let you work on more than one file at a time -- sure, they have *tabs*, but I want to have two, three, four, or more editors open and visible at once. Third, using an IDE requires you to be present on the system, or to have a fast connection -- and a lot of UNIX people have spent years learning that the ability to log in remotely to work is a Good Thing[tm]. The advantage of an IDE, as I see it, lies in the "lookahead" feature of the editor, where it will look up the possible methods for a class and let you chose the "correct" one, instead of having to guess or look it up. Syntax hilighting? Got it. Make from within the editor? Got it. Jump to the compilation error? Got it. -Stewart "Some IDEs are starting to add vi-commands, I hear" Stremler -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
