From: Andrew Lentvorski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If you are being serious, a 401K is *nothing* like Social Security.

I pay Social Security in order to pay for the Social Security for the older generation in my family.

I do not expect it to be there for me. That's the primary reason why I *oppose* Social Security accounts. I do not want them able to play games with the Social Security of my parents.

For myself, I'd rather they tackle the whole healthcare mess. Control my healthcare costs and I can put the saved money in my own IRA or 401K, thank you very much.


You miss the point of SS. Its not a retirement fund- its retirement insurance. Its a 100% garuntee, short of the government collapsing (in which case you have bigger issues). You will get back $x when you're in your old age. You will be able to afford food and housing. Its a promise we make as a society that we will not let you die in the streets at night from lack of bare essentials.

It is not meant to be a complete solution. Its meant to be a minimal solution. If you want to live comfortably or in luxury, you need to have additional savings. SS is more like keeping a part of your savings in government bonds- even if you lose your shirt on the rest of it, you can't lose that part.

Thats why I don't support SS accounts- its counter to the purpose of SS. With SS as stock accounts, you can lose the money and not have the cash in x years when you need it. Its just going to cause us to raise taxes even higher to account for the lost money (and lets be realistic- most people lose money in the market). So instead of maybe raising taxes a small amount in 50 years to cover SS, we'll have to raise it a large amount and pay out additional money to keep our eldery clothed, fed, and sheltered.

Gabe



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