begin  quoting Chris Mauricio as of Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 11:17:22AM -0700:
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> I said support for unions using dues in a political context ( ads, 
> contributiuons etc ) was low. The proposed bill would allow for those union 
> members who *disagree* with the use of dues for a particular political 
> statement or direction to request a refund or refuse to contribute: case in 

Once unions do their job and becomes sources of political power in and
of themselves, is it _possible_ to prevent 'em from being co-opted by
the politically-minded for their (the politically-minded) own ends?

> point- the teachers union just 'assessed'  additional dues of  $780 / per 
> year (I may be off on the figure )  for political positioning ( my words ) 
> mostly attaking Arnolds stance on tenure, merit pay etc.  Under current law, 
> all union members pay, regardless of their feelings about the stance of the 
> union.

Last I heard, non-union members paid dues to the union for the ability
to NOT be a member.

>        Under the proposed bill they could request a refund. In states with 
> similar laws, the participation in these contributions have fallen from a 
> mandatory 100% participation to a voluntary 7% participation. The message is 
> clear at least in the area of political arean regarding unions.

People are cheap?

Yah, that's a message I can agree with.

-Stewart "Something for nothing. And right now, dammit!" Stremler

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