Quoting Andrew Lentvorski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

company exercises its ability to push wages down.  See: the current
value of programmers and sytem administrators.  Suddenly they see the
value of unions, but it is too late by then.

Hmm... not from what I've seen.  We've still been hiring and having a hard
time finding good people.  Of course, we can be a lot pickier now.

BTW.. anyone that interviewed here, I'm not involved so don't yell at me if
you haven't heard or weren't hired.

Your assessment also requires that managers recognize talent.  That may
be clear when the product is labor.  This is not so clear when the
talent is more abstract.  KPLUG'ers can give you endless stories of
managers with no clue.  The system, unfortunately, does not flush them
out quickly enough for your argument to hold.

Yeah, I've always realized how good our company is in that most of the
management is made up of those that did the job.. not just suits out of
college.  So our talent is recognized.  Though the last corp I worked for,
where managers weren't as technically inclined, was pretty good too.  Until I
got laid off (along with 1/4 the office because of massive mistakes they
made).

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Homer: "Talking while the TV's on can't be good for you!"
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