Quoting Stewart Stremler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Isn't EA a counter-example of that?

People aren't forced to work there, and with the publicity they're getting,
why anyone new would apply there is beyond me.  They're not the only company
out there hiring.

Erm. If we give up unions (which were the only way to put a stop
to the horrid conditions that actually _worked_) on the premise that

The key word possibly being "were"... we now have a lot of laws on the books
that set limits to what an employer can do (and very few on what an employee
can do[0]).  These laws would all have to be repealed.

So you hear no talk of unionizing and everyone's happy.

Where's the problem? You're not dealing with a union. Why do you
object to unions so much?

I object to unions because I was in one, and it sucked.  I don't care if
others want to be in a union, just don't try to come in here and force me to
join or leave my job... those kind of contract clauses should be illegal IMO.

Also, I think too many people automatically think "union == good" without
weighing the consequences, and once the union is there, getting rid of it is
usually next to impossible.

Why should everyone else do without unions, when their employers aren't
so enlightened?

I never said they shouldn't.

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