On 9/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just plugged in a 40 Gb USB drive into my Linux
> laptop and the darn thing worked right away!  Imagine that!
> 
> How does the speed compare to good ol' IDE hard drives?
> 
> Is USB now slowly going to replace IDE and many PCI cards?
> 
> Chris
> ---------------------------------

 
Well Full Speed USB = 12Mbits/second where Hi-Speed USB = 480Mbits/second.

But it all depends on the HD  speed of the device itselft..

Technically an Ultra ATA/133 interface maximizes supports data
transfer rate up to 133MB/sec. But that all depends on the drive as
well.

Also I'd say it depends on how many devices you have on your USB bus.
If you just have a mouse or something you can probably reach high bus
speed up to the speed of the drive.

I wouldn't say that USB will take over the internal bus any time soon
but there's definately some Evolution coming.
P4 with DDR memory = 2.1GB/s across  bus. 
8x AGP = 2.1GB/s of data a second. So graphics card can kill your
bus.ATA 133 HD/Ultra/133 IDE = can overload the PCI bus too.

PCI Express 1X = 2.5Gb/s  Max bidirectional but average = around 250 MB/s

PCI-Express 16X =4GB/s in each direction which is used for graphics
cards and I've seen PCI-E 8X used for things like cluster
interconnect.

I'm not really sure what benefit if any the AMD Hypertransport
Architecture could have on a USB controller directly on the
motherboard. Definately a gigabit ethernet card is enough to cripple a
regular old PCI if you were transferring data that fast.

Who knows.....I found some commentart on PCI-E relating to
hypertransport and USB etc. actually: http://tinyurl.com/aalvu. I'm
guessing USB should take over everything external though I've still
had numerous problems from time to time having for example 8 usb
devices on a hub. Apparently for example the JTAG programmer I use to
program uCs trips out if it's not plugged into the root (my comp), and
I've had similar problems with a software protection dongle as well,
I'm not really sure why. I guess it certainly makes sense from an
economic perspective to unify to one bus. Essentially PCI-E is a
serial technology so maybe they could merge with USB's connectivity
and scheduling algorithms with the PCI-E form factor and connector,
but PCI-E doesn't carry power like USB. I have Power-Over-Ethernet for
the VoIP phones in my office so it seems like buses are getting more
and more similar though certainly Ethernet is nothing like a local bus
and most of the time is integrated onto your motherboard directly.

-T


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