Tracy R Reed([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 06:51:22PM -0700:
> Todd Walton wrote:
> > 1) This sidesteps the issue of "why can't I use my purchased bandwidth
> > to run a server if I want to"? and
> 
> Because servers use more bandwidth and require more management from the
> network provider. If they allowed servers the majority of them would be
> insecure Windows boxes that would get worms and eat up their bandwidth
> and cause support calls which all costs money. If you want to run a
> server go with a business grade service. You can be sure that when FIOS
> comes along they will provide one. I have Cox Business service at my
> home and I am fairly happy with it. I don't go to the regular tech
> support queue and actually get people who seem to have a clue on the
> phone fairly quickly.
> 

What if you *don't* wan't to run a server with a business grade
service?

If you paid for the bandwidth, then it doesn't matter what port it
is to/from - you have paid for it.  I have no qualms with them
controlling costs by saying that they refuse to provide support for
hobbyists' servers. If they shut down the network connection to
infected/infested hosts, then they solve that waste of bandwidth.

My take is that some (maybe most) ISPs are over-selling the
"upsteam" bandwidth.  They want to tell their naive customers that
they have 2mbps upstream knowing that the average user won't
utilize it.  Then they sell the same bandwidth again to the person
who buys web hosting from them.  I don't have a problem with ISPs
trying to manage the bandwidth effectively for profit.  Still, it
stinks the same way it did when some of the dial-up ISPs had such a
poor subscriber to modem ratio.  That kind of strategy makes sense
to a point, but taking it too far amounts to a disregard for the
customer.

> > 2) That's still a hell of a lot more expensive than even the best of
> > consumer level Internet service.
> 
> Yep. You get a lot more too.

"Premium" or "Business" grade services are fine, and should provide
better support and reliability than the non-commercial service.
I think you missed the point.  If Joe Consumer is told that he is
paying for 2mbps (or whatever) upstream bandwidth, then Joe
shouldn't be crippled in his ability to use what he bought, with
the only other option being to pay through the nose for "a lot
more" than what he needed or wanted (and had supposedly paid for
already, anyway).


Wade Curry
syntaxman


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