Tracy R Reed wrote:

Ralph Shumaker wrote:
Todd Walton wrote:


On 11/13/05, Ralph Shumaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Now, with the machine to which you refer, how can you send a fax of a
document in your hand without using the scanner side?  How is email
going to help with this?


If you have a document in your hand of course you have to use the
scanner, just like any fax machine. Email does not help with this part.
Email helps with the receiving of faxes and with scanning images.

Forgive me Tracy, but it sounds like you're contradicting yourself. Just in what you wrote right here, first you say "Email does not help with this part (you have to use the scanner, just like any fax machine)." And then you turn right around and say "Email helps with ... scanning images." You lost me. (More confused than ever.) (Who's on first!)


I took the idea to be that you don't have to have software to control
the scanner and to receive its output.  It just does the scan using
its own internal software, and then sends the output to you using a
very well known and very well supported protocol, email.  No special
interface.  No special driver.

Yep.

It sounds like you're saying that the all-in-one fires off an email (with attachment) thru the usb straight to the computer which must be set up to know how to handle email from such a source. Right?

Not through the USB. Through ethernet. Real printers are attached via
ethernet IMHO. Anything else is a for-home-use-only toy.

OK. So forget USB? Or do these printers have both USB *and* catV (at the same time) hooked up between the printer and the PC?


Then how does the "fax" machine on the other end get the fax? I don't think a fax machine has the capability to deal with email. Does Linux have a program that can convert the attached image to a fax and then access the modem, dial up the fax machine, and fax the image?

You scan it in just like you would with a regular fax machine and it
sends it just like a normal fax machine.

OK. It seems like you're talking about an all-in-one that has fax built in. Fine. That I can understand. And that takes care of that. But..., ...I guess I need to break things down into subfunctions.

There seem to be two types of all-in-ones, those with fax built-in, and those without. It must be assumed (I think) that those without need for the PC to have a fax/modem if you want faxing capability (or not). (I seem to be getting more and more mixed up as this goes on.)

Basic functions of all-in-one-with-fax attached to PC:
1) Printer:  PC sends a print job to it via USB or catV or what?
2) Copier:  Feed document through and out spits a copy.  (no PC necessary)
3) Scanner:  Feed document through and image gets to PC who-knows-how.
4) Incoming Fax to hard copy: Phone rings, all-in-one-with-fax answers, receives image and prints. 5) Incoming Fax to PC file: Phone rings, all-in-one-with-fax answers, receives image and image gets to PC who-knows-how. 6) Outgoing Fax from hard copy: Feed document, dial number, scans, calls, image sent. 7) Outgoing Fax from PC file: Who-knows-how file comes from PC, dials, and sends.
8) Did I miss anything?

Basic functions of all-in-one attached to PC with fax/modem:
1) Printer:  Same as #1 above.
2) Copier:  Same as #2 above.
3) Scanner:  Same as #3 above.
4) Incoming Fax to hard copy: Phone rings, PC answers, receives image and goes to step #1. 5) Incoming Fax to PC file: Phone rings, PC answers, receives image and stores to file. 6) Outgoing Fax from hard copy: Do step #3, then PC somehow knows this is a fax and where to send it. 7) Outgoing Fax from PC file: Who-knows-what program sends file out via fax.
8) Did I miss anything?


Then the (person at the) fax machine wants to send a fax back. Linux will answer the phone and receive the fax? And I'm guessing that I can choose whether or not I want to print it.

No. If the person on the other end wants to send a fax back the fax
comes in over the phone line plugged into your printer/fax/scanner
machine and the device receives the fax and either prints it or emails
it depending on how you have it configured.

There we are with that infernal magic email again.


Can Linux act as both a receiving fax machine and an answering machine?

A PC running Linux can do this with a faxmodem installed but I thought
we were talking about those fancy fax/print/scan boxes.

Yeah, and I can't seem to keep up with whether we're talking about which flavor of all-in-one.


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