Stewart Stremler([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 12:02:16PM -0800:
> begin  quoting Todd Walton as of Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:09:26AM -0800:
> > On 11/26/05, Stewart Stremler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > - "Disdain this business of creating a new group for each
> > > user"
> > 
> > Disdain the Unix permissions scheme while you're at it.
> 
> Has nothing to do with breaking the 'UID and GID must match'
> meme.
> 
> Groups are for groups, not a secondary indicator of ownership.
> Use 'em to _group_ users (this should not come as a brilliant
> insight).
> 
> -Stewart "Which isn't to say that standard UNIX perms aren't
> crippled." Stremler

As powerful as RACF is (MVS security product), people still are
able to break and abuse it regularly.  Being based on ACLs really
is a huge benefit, though.

The way the mainframers think about password and data security is a
little different, though.  It is common with Linux to see a
group created to provide access to files, and then add a user to
the groups that allow appropriate access.  Mainframers see groups
as defining the function of the person.  Everyone belongs to one
-and only one- group.  Each dataset profile then has an entry
defining the type of access for each and every user or group that
needs it.

Wade Curry
syntaxman


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