Lan Barnes wrote:
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 10:57:39AM -0800, Michael J McCafferty wrote:

At 10:36 AM 12/3/2005, you wrote:

I've posted about this before. I have a box (to be my MythTV box) that
used to work but gradually stopped turning on. For awhile, tinkering
(removing the power switch jumpers, removing the power cord, stuff like
that) would somehow make it work again, but now it's just not working at
all.
>>
>>Got another power supply laying around ? Maybe one in a working PC
>>somewhere else in the house, or an old PC on the scrap heap. Just use
>>that to test. No need to take the Mobo out of the case... just set
>>the spare PS up outside the case or replace the PS in the case. Your choice.
>
> Hmm ... how much do I have to attach? Just the main connection to the
> MB? No drives or peripherals?
>
> I wonder what I still have in the garage?

You will have to attach to the motherboard, of course. But you might also have to attach to at least one HD as well, depending on how much current the mobo draws. Properly designed ATX power supplies are not supposed to turn on unless there is a minimum current draw.

Of course, in order to test the PS, you don't need to attach it to the mobo at all. Just short the green wire with any black (ground) wire at the mobo connector. This will turn the PS on, if it's good. Note that this requires a load to work. The tech at PC Power & Cooling told me that that means at least one, possibly two IDE hard drives, or one SCSI drive[1].

Of course, if your problem is intermittent, than it's going to be tougher to determine whether the problem is the mobo or PS. If you can get consistent on/off cycles with a different PS, you can guess that's the culprit. But then if the problem comes up at random times, then who knows.

If you want to do a test which really tests your real world usage, replace the PS with another - that is, everything plugged into the current PS gets plugged into the test PS, and you run the rig as usual till you're satisfied that the problem is or isn't the PS.

I'd say, replace the PS in any case (pun alert!). What you've got is probably a cheap POS which came with a "Even includes power supply!" case. Those are usually marginal at best (unless a name brand like Antec). You have nothing to lose even if the problem is with the motherboard as you'll still have a known good PS[2].


[1] I bought one of PCP&C's ATX power supply testers (about $10) which includes the load and and LED which just plugs into the PS's mobo connector.

[2] Well, if it's a new well designed unit - and there aren't many of those to choose from - my list includes PCP&C and Antec. And only PCP&C includes a 5-year warranty, and real-tech-on-the-phone support.

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