begin quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] as of Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:59:58PM -0800: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:23:08PM -0800, Stewart Stremler wrote: > > > Buy *why*? What would Apache, OpenBSD and X.org developers lose if > > > copyright > > > was gone tomorrow? > > > > Credit. > > This is a valid concern that hasn't come up yet on this thread.
I thought it had. Hm. "Coin other than money" includes credit for work done. > I have an answer to your credit concern that isn't something I just thought of > 2 minutes ago.... > > You may not have known but this, I'm told, Who's telling you I don't know things? :) > is a favorite tactic of big media > to argue for copyright. "Oh no! Without copyright plagiarism will be rampant! > No one will get credit for anything!" Not getting credit != plagiarism. Not that I'm suprised that they're trying to link the two. [snip] > Copyright does *not* prevent plagiarism. It prevents *copying*. It penalizes copying. The penalty may or may not prevent the act of copying. > Plagiarism and copying are not the same. Correct. > Copying may actually *prevent* plagiarism! How you say? I've heard > that now when a teacher finds a sentence in a student's paper he/she > thinks is plagiarized, he/she will search for it with Google. Been there, done that, failed 10% of the class. > Massive sharing/copying helps search engines like Google to reveal > original authors. Maybe. Maybe not. You might get false positives. How /would/ plagiarism work in a world without copyright? You could quote something, but not attribute it, while still disclaiming 'creation' yourself? You could derive a work that shares substantial portions with the parent work, and claim that this new work was indeed "your work", and no reference to the original? > And, the fact is people that duplicate materials like CDs do not > usually replace the artist's name with their own. Granted. And yet... Artists do this all the time. When they do, we say that they "cover" a song. It's not stealing, because the copyright system arranges for payment to be made to the appropriate (legally speaking) copyright holders. -- _ |\_ \| -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
