Gus Wirth wrote: > RBW wrote: >> I just upgraded my laptop from FC4 to FC6 and except for the typical >> hand-to-hand combat with Yum and dependencies, etc. (memo to self: check >> if apt-get is any easier resolving dependencies) things are O.K., just >> the usual methodical running of all the extra 3rd party apps I installed >> to make sure they still function (I did a CD upgrade and then a yum >> update). Anyway I am trying to get "hald" to once again automount like >> it did under FC4. From what I understand hal, dbus and udev have to be >> running as daemons, and here is what my "ps" shows: >> >> $ ps auwx|grep hal >> 68 2372 0.0 0.1 2288 764 ? S Dec17 0:00 >> hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket >> root 2373 0.0 0.1 3392 916 ? S Dec17 0:00 >> /usr/libexec/hald-addon-cpufreq >> 68 2379 0.0 0.1 2292 736 ? S Dec17 0:00 >> hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event0 >> root 2397 0.0 0.0 2248 576 ? S Dec17 0:07 >> hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc >> rbrwill 8588 0.0 0.1 3888 716 pts/2 S+ 10:19 0:00 grep hal >> >> $ ps auwx|grep dbus >> dbus 1936 0.0 0.1 13380 1164 ? Ssl Dec17 0:01 >> dbus-daemon --system >> root 2535 0.0 0.1 2276 796 ? S Dec17 0:00 >> /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.leases -cf >> /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -q -e dhc_dbus=31 >> -x -d eth0 >> rbrwill 8590 0.0 0.0 3884 676 pts/2 R+ 10:19 0:00 grep >> dbus >> >> $ ps auwx|grep udev >> root 395 0.0 0.1 2920 1380 ? S<s Dec17 0:00 >> /sbin/udevd -d >> rbrwill 8592 0.0 0.0 3888 692 pts/2 S+ 10:19 0:00 grep >> udev >> >> >> With all these thumb drives around I am spoiled by the convenience of >> HAL auto-mounting and not having to hack fstab, so does anyone have any >> tips on how to get HAL to not only run but actually mount on attach >> events? >> >> BTW, while I was searching around for tips I ran across this blog with a >> funny picture of a guy at the 2005 Free software conference in Cancun... >> There has gotta be a better way! >> http://machuidel.themirror.nl/?offset=250&id=41&PHPSESSID=3d1495ba7b649185752edd2d4830665b >> >> (search page for: "Saturday - December 2nd") > > You are misinformed about what dbus, hald, and udev are doing.
Yeah, searching the web will do that as often as not... ;^) > None of > these daemons will do automounting. udev will automatically create > devices for use by programs. dbus provides notifications to user space > programs that register for those notifications. hald is a daemon for > collection and maintaining information from several sources about the > hardware on the system. It provides a live device list through D-BUS. > > To get automounting to work like before, you need a program that > registers itself with d-bus and then performs that function. Both the > standard GNOME and KDE installs in Fedora have programs that will do that. > > Because you did an upgrade vs a new install, I suspect something either > didn't install or is currently mis-configured. Also, there is a big jump > from FC4 to FC6, vs almost none from FC5 to FC6. In fact, the > documentation for Fedora strongly recommends doing new installs vs > upgrading due to the rapid changes in the packages with each release. > > If you can save your data and configuration, I would strongly recommend > starting over with a new installation. Otherwise, it might turn into a > trial-and-error hunt to find out which piece of GNOME or KDE isn't > working right. Actually, I don't even know if you are using KDE or GNOME. > > Gus > > Heck... I was trying to get with the program, so to speak. My usual method is to do what I used to call a "lobotomy upgrade", that is to save off the personal/modified/specialized stuff blow the system away and install from scratch. I'd just come to the same conclusion after I noticed that a whole bunch of packages are still fc4. My big issues are VMWare, the Haldaemon and ndiswrappers for my WPC55AG wireless card. My other big issue is where I put all the 3rd party apps etc. over time. I have learned to install most everything to /home/userdir so eyballing what was before should be OK. There is just something about the incrementalism of upgrading that is uncomfortable even though it is fun (and no where near what the masses would put up with). For the backup, /home is obvious as is /etc the only other partition I see as required is /opt where a few apps wanted to install. Am I missing anything critical other than those? I post what happens next... Thanks for the tips! rbw -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
