On Sat, January 27, 2007 7:16 pm, Chris Mauricio wrote:
> On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:01, DJA wrote:
>> Chris Mauricio wrote:
>> > On Friday 26 January 2007 21:11, DJA wrote:
>> >>> Chris
>> >>
>> >> I just did an FC5 --> FC6 fresh install on my laptop. I have no
>> problems
>> >> so far getting a connection. I don't know what wlanassistant is, but
>> I
>> >> use the provided NetworkManager and nm-applet in KDE with not
>> problems.
>> >> This includes getting a WPA/WPA2 connection using KWallet to manage
>> >> passwords.
>> >
>> > can you describe the network manager utility you are using? I can't
>> seem
>> > to find it.. perhaps it handles the card differently that what I am
>> > using.
>>
>> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
>>
>> They can describe it better than I. I have been using it since early
>> FC5. I know it is part of the FC6 install, although maybe not one of the
>> default install packages. I might have added it post install, though it
>> certainly is in the Fedora repo's.
>>
>> It is a service, and I believe is disabled by default. You'll have to
>> enable it yourself (system-config-services). There is a sister app for
>> it which is a panel applet. It's called KNetworkManager (binary called
>> knetworkmanager) for KDE, and I think nm-applet is for Gnome. The old
>> GUI control (pre-FC5) is called NetworkManagerInfo (binary is spelled
>> like that also).
>>
>> > I have a combination of KWiFiManager  and the standard Network Device
>> > Control applet.
>>
>> I also have used those on occasion when NetworkManager didn't work. But
>> I found that KWiFiManager to both flaky, inflexible, and less than
>> powerful. Marginally better than just using Wireless Tools.
>>
>> > I am unfamiliar with KWallet for WPA / WPA2  - a short description
>> > would be greatly appreciated!
>> >
>> > C.
>>
>> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/kwallet/index.html
>>
>> KWallet is the KDE password manager, basically a keyring. You store your
>> passwords in KWallet which itself is password protected. It does not
>> (necessarily) use the same password associated with the current UID.
>>
>> In the WiFi context, when you access a password protected AP, KWallet
>> will (after asking for it's own password) look for the needed AP
>> password and pass it to the AP. It handles WEP, WPA, etc.
>>
>> It's not perfect, doesn't work for all AP authentication protocols (nor
>> do I think yet for VPN's), but like WiFi on Linux in general, gets
>> better a month at a time.
>>
>> --
>>     Best Regards,
>>        ~DJA.
>
>
> OK. I got this working- apparently it is not installed if you only choose
> KDE
> desktop and leave out gnome.  Thanks very kindly! dhcp is working as
> expected, it picks up gw on the home network now. Strange as one would
> assume
> both netowrk managers call the DHCP scripts and just inherit the results
> of
> ifup and dhcp request, but I guess this turns out not to be the case.
>
> Need to play with the wallet feature, it seems to NOT want to retain the
> wep
> key for the network and pass it over when knetworkmanager fires up and
> tries
> to join the home wifi.
>
> Thanks very much again, your help is thoroughly appreciated!!
>
> C.
>

Just got back from a week's trip (Portland OR) in which this was my exact
problem. FC5, Gnome. Everything came in but no UG on route -n. This was
true at the hotel, the clinet site (OHSU hospitals), but strangely I got
the free wireless at Powell's books.

All of these places had browser click throughs, and I wondered if that was
pertinent, but without a default gateway, I obviously didn't get that far.

I have to admit, I didn't entire understand the thread (a bit tired and
wireless clueless). "Necessary services"? Which? What was Chris's fix
again?

TIA,

-- 
Lan Barnes

SCM Analyst              Linux Guy
Tcl/Tk Enthusiast        Biodiesel Brewer


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