From: "Christian Seberino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sun, March 25, 2007 9:26 pm, Lan Barnes wrote:
> Prayer is NOT illegal anywhere. FORCED prayer is in government funded
> institutions. Can't you discern the difference?
If I'm not mistaken, you couldn't give a graduation commencement address
and ask for a *voluntary* prayer before you started.
Nope, and you shouldn't be able to. Thats an official school function. By
asking for a "voluntary" prayer, you're forcing everyone there, students and
spectators alike, to stand by and wait while you pray. Sorry, you don't
have a right to shove your beliefs down my throat. Actually, no, no I'm not
sorry. You're perfectly welcome to say a short prayer before getting up on
stage, just don't say it so loudly it interrupts procedings. That should be
perfectly fine, unless of course its your goal to shoveel your drivel at
everyone else.
>>>> Even your beloved Jefferson mentioned God in his Declaration Of
>>>> Independence.
>>>
>>> Jefferson was a self-declared deist,
>>
>> So what? And deist != atheist.
>
> It's not as far away from it as you might think. deist ~= agnostic
That's a stretch. Jefferson's Declaration of Independence says that the
source of our inalienable rights is God. Now does the Declaration of
Independence say that or not?
The Declaration is a work of a committee. He was merely the chief
architect. And to pick nits, he doesn't say god, he says their creator.
Besides which, you ought to learn what deism means. It means you believe
there is a god, but he has no effect on daily life. So yeah, agnosticism
and deism are pretty damn close.
>> They didn't want to *force* people to believe in Christianity but the
>> vast
>> majority would certainly be happy if more people followed the teachings
>> of
>> Christianity....be honest, help your neighbor, be faithful to your
wife,
>> etc.
>
> Why do you think that? Sexually repressed, superstitious, denying the
> evidence of the senses and conclusions of reason? This is better for
> everybody?
You didn't answer the question..unless you think Christianity teaches one
to be sexually repressed, superstitious and unreasonable? Can you show me
where in the New Testament it says that? I'm not sure your own comments
are, to use your words, "conclusions of reason".
Sexually repressed? The fact that it considers premarital sex immoral,
homosexuality immoral, and by many interpretations any position but
missionary immoral.
Superstitious? You believe in a host of imaginary beings. Its by
definition.
Gabe
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