On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 22:47 -0700, Chris Mauricio wrote:

> 
> I have found that Dells, by and far, run Linux right out of the box. I have a 
> year + old Inspiron 710m, 1gb, 60gb, 1.7mhz mobility CPU, 1280x800 screen. I 
> had to apply a simple patch to run the display at that res, built in wifi and 
> eth0 worked out of the box. Sound, dvd+r work fine, the built in SD card 
> reader needs a hack that I haven't bothered with since I have no SD cards. 
> the little WiFi LED that indicates the wireless is active is software driven 
> and there is a patch to make it light up, and I got it working, but I didn't 
> bother to reinstall it when I did a upgrade / reload. FN buttons work, 
> suspend and resume works, CPU throttling works.... running FC6. It likes 
> ubuntu too.  
> 
> If you want to do a little research, check out the wonderful resource "linux 
> on laptops".  http://www.linux-laptop.net/
> you can check out what people have linux running on by mfg and model, usually 
> multiple distros worth. It's where I turn before I buy, and after- 
> disclaimer: no affiliation
> 
> Dells offer NBD on-site repair, which I prefer to sending it out of my sight 
> for a week or two only to find they fixed the wrong thing. It really only 
> adds a couple hundred to the price for 3 yr NBD on-site, but amortized over 
> the life of the warranty it's cheap. Figure a replacemet HD alone will make 
> you break even. MB or display and you are way ahead of the curve. I recommend 
> it highly to my customers and have used it several times myself with my 
> previous dell laptop.
> 

Dells are fine if you don't mind paying an inflated price and if you
really need the service contract (and in my experience, the contract was
needed).

I purchased my Intel P4 2.66GHz, MSI built laptop from D&J back in 2003
(Microtron 2000 back then, still online as microtron2000.com) for $1172
and have been very happy with it. I ordered it with no OS, a faster CPU
than what was listed, and extra memory. I later had them add a larger
HDD (it was still under warrantee, so I had them do it) and blow out the
dust while they were at it. Linux worked on it OOTB, though I did make
it dual boot since I needed Winsucks for school. I selected a P4 for the
power, with the drawback of short battery life, but I needed power and
decent graphics for game development.

It was less than a Dell (I looked at Dell, and even with my student
discount at the time, they could not touch the price) and had the video
chipset I wanted (NVIDIA - the only choice for Linux). I looked at other
places as well - Fry's, a few local stores, some online places - and
settled on D&J. D&J came out to my office earlier this year to replace
the fan and P/S which had both started to fail after years of a LOT of
use.

My brother did a lot of research before he bought his laptop online. He
found that all laptops are made by a couple of manufacturers so one
brand is almost the same as another as far as electronics. He should
chime in on this thread and maybe add his $0.02 worth.

PGA


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