begin  quoting Tracy R Reed as of Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 12:36:34PM -0700:
> Stewart Stremler wrote:
> >Then you need to mess about with watching drive lights and running
> >find or sync or something to remember what filesystem is on which
> >drive.
> 
> Only when you don't use LVM to manage all of your disks as a pool and 
> don't have RAID for redundancy. Otherwise you don't care and let the 
> software sort that out.

So... you just give up, and let the drive die, so you can pull the one
that isn't spinning?

<shudder>

> >I like knowing that *this* partition is on *that* disk.
> 
> Works fine for home use. When you have lots of disk you need to move to 
> a higher level of abstraction.

It's important to beat engineers about the head and shoulders for
recommending excessively complex solutions that mostly demonstrate
how clever they are.

I ain't drinkin' yer koolaid.

RAID accumulates disks into a meta-disk; in that case, I would still
want to know that *this* partition is on *that* array. That's fine.
It's all about the replacable unit -- I don't care what platter my
data is on, I'll just replace the whole disk. That's the appropriate
level of abstraction.

I've watched people who play with the mega-massive disk arrays that
function on a "higher level of abstraction", and it's very impressive,
amazingly flexible, and way cool... until they lose a weekend rebuilding
the whole damn thing because something went haywire and now there's no
way of determining what data is where (all that data is on a disk, but
which one, nobody knows...).

Granted, when you start talking about petabytes of data, there's
going to be a disk management problem.  But that's not where most
folks are.

-- 
In technology, "clever" should be a perjorative, not "simple".
Stewart Stremler


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