On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Ralph Shumaker wrote:

Richard Reynolds wrote:
and this doesnt even touch on the fact that if your really recording over the air broadcasts in any area near the san diego county line your just doing it wrong....

Then I guess I've been doing it wrong for years. What free alternative do you suggest?

Ive given this post a significant amount of time, not because I dont have answers to the technical questions, not because I dont have experience using a PVR or many PVR's but because of one part "What free alternative do you suggest?" no matter how much we might want to push the bottom line nothing is free. IF you have already bought this card, then you spent money on it, if you havent then you will have to spend some money on the alternative. its not free. even if you got this card free by some means like a gift, the electricity is not free to run it. For the technical portions please see below, but for the other response. If you bought this card for over the air recording you bought the wrong one plane and simple, your money would have better been spent buying one of a zillion others, many that already decode the digital signal. most out there now even come with there own antenna not the FM radio antenna that comes with several of these designed for audio only, but a real antenna It would be nice in the san diego area if these antenna's rotated either automatically or programatically none that I know of do. But you can purchase antenna rotators that do. This line of cards does not predate the digital airways push, purchasing these cards means you should have understood there limits as they were boxed.

Then I feel I have to clairify somethings, this was a thread specifically about the Hauppauge PVR-x50 lines and over the air broadcasts, this specifically *excludes* any other cards by Hauppauge or any other manufacturer. And excludes any source other than over the air, have cable from the cable company and your exempt from this.

Now as for the fun stuff.

While not free, the best picture, channel selection and use of these specific cards is to get the cheapest cable TV if you can get it doing so allows you to use cheaper cards(like the PVR-x50) to capture TV and provides a more reliable higher quality signal.

The next step if you have not bought the cards yet is to buy a different capture card one that does better at uhf/vhf decoding, the chosen line here is not really that great at it, look for ones with there own antenna (but not perminently fixed on) most are not omni-directional so depending on where in the county you live you may need to pick which card records off which channel

If you have bought the cards and either cheap cable is unavalible or still unwanted the other alternative is to buy one of the many digital converter boxes. If you get a digital decoder box that has an antenna (again avoid the fixed antennas) you may use that. otherwise buy or build an antenna for each tuner you have, again depending on where in the county you live pick one tunner for each station or set of stations to match the antenna direction. Or alternatively buy or build an antenna tunner yourself, a Hint if you think you might be able to build one yourself a simple servo will do just fine and are controllable for chaep thru the usb or LPT ports thru linux see the LDP HAM guides. these digital antennas are not as large as the older style TV antennas and so the weight is very low a hitec HS-422 will do just fine.



conspiricy fans you will of course be able to record on the currently fox channel 6 for a LONG time as they will not be converting to digital.


(And why does it seem that you loathe punctuation?)
Sure but that doesn't mean my answers are wrong.


Richard Reynolds
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