Ralph Shumaker wrote:
DJA wrote:
MattyJ wrote:
More correctly, you paid to rent time on someone else's network. And it's not out of my way at all. In fact, your sending me everything I need to know to use your network makes it quite trivial on my part to do so. Your radio signals are in my house unprotected.

You are right. *I* pay to be on someone else's network, not you.

Then you should do due diligences to protect that other entity's network and not let vermin like me into it.

"should"?  "should"?!

Didn't your mama teach you that it's not polite to "should" on people?

If I see someone with a weapon entering your house through a window you left wide open, then I "should" (and shall) call the police. If I know your phone number, maybe I "should" call you too.

Yes! that's it, the proper analogy: Accessing an open AP is like armed burglary!


But breaking into your wide open Weirdos® puter with little to no protections set up for it? Sorry, but I'm just going to laugh my ass off! (not really) But I know what happens when you try to tell someone "You should protect your computer better than that.". They usually tell you to mind your own fscking business. *THEN* I'll laugh my ass off when they get cracked!

True enough. Although "Connecting to an open AP is breaking into a computer" is past ridiculous. But with that mindset, it promotes some of the rubbish ignorant politicians spew in order to pass nonsensical laws: P2P or any kind of file sharing is stealing! Sharing bandwidth is stealing! Playing a radio is the barbershop without paying ASCAP is stealing!


But as for your renting bandwidth, yes, you rent it, but then you turn around and broadcast it for free and allow free use of it. It's like :) setting up a big screen tv and cable box facing a large picture window with no curtains. You can't really get too upset if the neighbors use their own remote controls and watch it from the street.

Yep.


Do you put locks on your trashcan? Let's say a neighbor of yours is cheap and refuses to pay for municipal services, so they do not have a trashcan. You only fill yours half way each week, so they simply put their trash in your unsecured trashcan on trash night.

They have to trespass onto my property to do so. If I continually put my trashcan on my neighbour's property, I shouldn't be surprised if it gets filled (or thrown though my window). However, if my neighbor empties his trashcan onto my property, and I find something useful in the trash, guess what? I keep it.

He said trash night. That is implying that your can is on the curb, ready for pickup the next day.

Sorry, I thought it was a contrived analogy and so didn't pay too much attention to its details. Given those details it's even weaker. My can's on the curb. Obviously, I've already put all my available trash into it. I could care less what my neighbor (or anyone else for that matter) adds. The city's going to take it all away in the morning anyway and I'll have empty cans for another week. Where's the harm? Like I said: lame!

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      ~DJA.


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