begin  quoting Andrew Lentvorski as of Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 05:10:29PM -0700:
> SJS wrote:
> >begin  quoting MattyJ as of Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 05:45:00AM -0700:
> >>Not necessarily. The Wifi is a service that I'm paying for, I expect that 
> >>only I'm going to be using it, not some freeloader across the street. How 
> >>about another analogy?
> >
> >I expect that you're going to send me $50 each week. You failing to 
> >fulfill my expectations constitutes theft!
> 
> The assumption here is that the person with the open AP has an 
> "unlimited" bandwidth plan.
> 
> If that person were paying by the byte, this would be quite clearly theft.

Or if I thought that person was paying by the byte, and I used that
resource regardless.  Then there would be intent to cause harm or 
defraud another.

> This has also been established in various other arenas.  Notably power 
> transmission.
>
> If you set up a gigantic induction coil to consume the emissions from 
> power lines, that is also theft.  That coil creates a load on the line.

I've seen pictures of TJ where hundreds wires tap into the power lines,
as a lot of people would rather steal the power than pay for it. I
figured this hinders the overall development, as it reduces reliability
for everyone. I do consider that theft.

I'm told that fluorescent tubes ... fluoresce ... when brought in to the
vicinity of high-powered transmission lines.  If you lived near enough to
such a line, and could light up your garage without running wires, I
don't think I'd have any problem with you doing so.

> The issue is that your use of the resource diminishes the ability of the 
> original owner to use that resource.

Who owns the airwaves?

If both you and I are using a wireless network in the same area, we're
going to get in each other's way.

> This is in contrast to the intellectual property and copyright fields 
> where your production of a copy in no way diminishes anybody else's 
> ability to use the original (or any other copy for that matter).

So long as "use" doesn't include "sell".

-- 
If the purpose of property is income, then any free use is dumb.
Stewart Stremler


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