Christoph Maier wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 18:10 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>> James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>>> especially interesting is a flash presentation
>>>   http://subtextual.org/demo1.html
>> I saw this same flash presentation with the same examples years ago. 
>> It's not really obvious it's any easier than the normal definition of 
>> factorial or whatever. How would you handle database, 3D graphics, etc?
>>
>> There's another language called "boxer" which also loses the source (so 
>> to speak) and would seem to be better at functional programming, or at 
>> least teaching that. You might be able to dig something up on that, if 
>> you like these kinds of languages.
>>
>>> I believe he's onto something big!
>> If he is, he's doing a poor job of actually producing something with it. 
>> :-)  It doesn't seem to be that far different from QBE.
>>
>> -- 
>>    Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
>>      I bet exercise equipment would be a lot more
>>      expensive if we had evolved from starfish.
> 
> Beats me why one would want to obfuscate perfectly obvious abstract
> concepts by unnecessarily specific examples, anyway. 
> 

I didn't read it having any obfuscating effect. To the extent of the
demo/presentation, I saw some real value in (for example) avoiding
semantic meaning for labels. And the ability to build in test-cases
seemed like a neat side-benefit.

It certainly showed a different set of activities with respect to
programming that would take some learning effort, but I was impressed
that he made his point(s).

Regarding "actually producing something", that may well be a valid
obversation. He was, after all, called a /researcher/ in the article
linking to the demo. :-)

Darren- Boxer: are you referring to the /Berkeley Boxer Project/? I
don't see too much about any other boxer programming language.

Regards,
..jim

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