On 1/21/08, David Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 12:57:16AM -0500, Mark Schoonover wrote: > > >This is something I think I just had to do - learning Emacs was just > taking > >way too much time, plus it was very difficult to keep holding down the C > and > >M keys. Maybe it's the fact I use a Dvorak keyboard, I don't know. > > Pain in my left hand was my main reason for switching away from emacs a > few > years ago. I've kind of switched back, but I mostly run Emacs in viper > mode, which is largely vi like (not vim like). Most of the extended > functionality vim provides over vi is available in emacs, but done > differently. There is also a _lot_ more stuff available. > > I'm kind of curious about your experiences with vim with a dvorak > keyboard. > I learned dvorak a while back, but both emasc and vim keystrokes are so > burned into my motor memory that I just can't seem to do anything in them > when set to dvorak. My experience, especially with vim, is that I seem to > mostly make random, and often destructive, changes to my documents. :-) I > guess some people have that as their normal experience with vi. > > Dave
My experiences with Dvorak have been very positive. I did learn Vim on qwerty first years ago, but I eventually learned the key combos all over again. Now, it's not really a problem for me to swtich between Dvorak or qwerty, it takes me a few seconds but the brain will switch. I know I have to focus more on what I'm doing when I'm on qwerty, but other than that those episodes on that layout are short lived. Meaning I need to make a quick conf file change on a system. Long term editing while programming is all done on Dvorak. About the only time I really get goofed up is using a traditional word processor. I catch myself hitting the ESC key, even when in OO. To me, having a seperate mode for editing and movement make clear sense to me. Holding down the C/M keys at the same time poses problems on a Dvorak keyboard. Most of the commands used for Lisp all happen with a single hand when using vowels. Sure, I could remap things to the other side of the keyboard, but why? Having the clear seperation that Vim provides makes life easier, atleast for me. -- Mark Schoonover, CMDBA http://www.linkedin.com/in/markschoonover http://marksitblog.blogspot.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-lpsg
