On Jul 5, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Michael O'Keefe wrote:
*Their* group decision affected *our* group, and all groups, and treated former members of the SDCS badly.Yes. And jeering does not make things any better.Does it make it any worse ?
Focussing on what we disliked about the past prevents us from appropriately and adequately planning for the future.
I, for one, prefer to move forward, rather than stare backward. Hence, my recent appointment to the board of SDCS. I'm doing something about it. You can, too.
We don't have to be happy about it. But we can at least be grown up about it.How I choose to live with it, is to deride them til the cows come homeWhich just goes to show that they were right to leave.Let's not be George W. Bush here and re-write history.
Nobody is doing anything like that, and I personally find it offensive that you're taking it that way. I saw Stewart's remarks as merely an example of one of the many reasons both SDMUG and SDCS are better off with SDMUG's departure.
They didn't leave becoz they were being derided. They took over the whole thing coz they didn't want to pay $$ to the SDCS anymore, and wanted to keep it for themselves, as well as get back $$ they'd already paid.
You are conveniently forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that SDMUG made the changes that many of us in KPLUG were complaining needed to be done for quite some time. The difference, perhaps, is in how they went about it and how they handled it after the fact.
I am hoping with SDMUG's departure, we can refocus on finishing the repair of SDCS, and move forward to make it a better organization than before. I, frankly, don't really give a shit anymore why SDMUG left, and can attest to the fact that SDCS is not in jeopardy because of SDMUG's departure.
SDCS is in jeopardy because of the SIGs complete apathy towards SDCS.
They put all the other organisations into an unfamiliar state
I wouldn't characterize it as an unfamiliar state. In reality, nothing much has changed now that SDMUG is gone, aside from KPLUG becoming the quorum SIG in SDCS. SDCS still provides an insurance policy for SIG events. SDCS still provides the 501c3 umbrella for the SIGs. SDCS still is ignored by the SIGs. :)
There is definitely still work to be done to improve on the situation, and we should really focus on the present and future, and leave the past well enough alone.
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