begin quoting Michael O'Keefe as of Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 12:39:07PM -0700: > >>*Their* group decision affected *our* group, and all groups, and treated > >>former members of the SDCS badly. > > > >Yes. And jeering does not make things any better. > > Does it make it any worse ? I think it does.
Naturally, this is not a widespread belief, especially in our culture. :) > >We don't have to be happy about it. But we can at least be grown up > >about it. > > >>How I choose to live with it, is to deride them til the cows come home > > >Which just goes to show that they were right to leave. > > Let's not be George W. Bush here and re-write history. Erm. Let's avoid _trying_ to start a flamewar, shall we? That sort of insult was uncalled for. > They didn't leave becoz they were being derided. Correct. I apologize if it seemed that I was implying such a thing. I was trying to say that if we're the sort of people that casually accept mockery of others, we're probably the sort of people that it's best to distance oneself from. If SDCS is the sort of organization that can't let a group leave without stirring up some sort of deep-seated grudge, then SDCS is the sort of organization to which it's best to not belong. > They took over the > whole thing coz they didn't want to pay $$ to the SDCS anymore, and > wanted to keep it for themselves, as well as get back $$ they'd already > paid. And this is a problem why? I have no problem with SIGs wanting to keep their assets. And if they think they can do a better job, far be it from me to hold 'em back. The one good thing that ought to come out of this mess is a simplified and documented mechanism allowing a group to leave SDCS gracefully. > They put all the other organisations into an unfamiliar state (I was > going to say turmoil, but very few SIG's seemed to give a rat's arse > about the whole thing anyway) for their own purposes. It wasn't altruistic ! Um, "unfamiliar" as in "having to get involved" is a problem with roots in our (the other SIGs) behavior, not theirs. We're fixing this. So it's been angsty. That's the fun bit. -Stewart
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