On Sun, May 11, 2008 7:41 pm, Gus Wirth wrote: > Tracy R Reed wrote: >> Lan Barnes wrote: >>>> Ed Van Meter to Neil, Lan >>>> Again, I state for the "RECORD" no LINUX User Group >>>> SIG shall use a Room if they are not scheduled to use >>>> a specific room, unless approved by SDCOE through my >>>> coordination. Your compliance with this rule is >>>> mandatory. >> >> I'm not suggesting that we try to change anything or rock the boat but >> I'm curious: By what means does Ed have us by the short and curlies that >> we brush off this sort of thing? I'm sure I've heard it explained a few >> times before but I guess I've forgotten. Is the above intended to sound >> the way it does or is Ed really just a nice guy who doesn't express >> himself well? >> >> I guess one means by which he has us by the shorts is that finding >> another meeting place is difficult and more effort than anyone wants to >> invest. I sure wish my employer had a suitable meeting room. The Windows >> User Group meets at Microsoft's office. Maybe someday RedHat or someone >> will have an office in San Diego. >> > > Please don't take exception to the way Ed has phrased the above. I've > known him for about 15 years and that's just the way he writes. The > point of the message is meant to be: don't just go and grab a room if it > hasn't been scheduled. You'll piss someone off. Someone who can take all > our rooms away. > > Andrew, if you think it's grievous to deal with Ed Van Meter then I'll > be the contact point to isolate the rest of you from the heinous exposure. > > Gus
Gus is (mostly) right; Andy is (mostly) wrong. For the record, I devoted considerable time as SDCS prez to trying to sort this tangled mess out. I also successfully lined up an alternative source of wonderful rooms that nobody seems to give a shit about. Here are some points: 1. Ed speaks Ed-ese. As Gus points out, it doesn't mean he's a bad person ... just a terrible writer. 2. Historical events with SDCOE royally screwed things up once with multiple people going to them for rooms, making demands, and being generally rude. They were going to throw everybody out, but Ed calmed the situation. One of the criteria for peace was that they onlly deal with Ed from now on. (All this was before my time.) 3. After several months of phoning people, visiting people, digging up history, etc as SDCS prez, I came to the conclusion that the smart thing to do was to leave it the hell alone, which I proceded to do energetically for close to two years. 4. I am no longer SDCS prez. Everyone clear on that? I can still get alternative rooms, but I plan to turn tht contact over to the new prez, as it in no way gives my pitiful life meaning. -- Lan Barnes SCM Analyst Linux Guy Tcl/Tk Enthusiast Biodiesel Brewer -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
