Thank you Marc' Sparky Sparks
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Baca via KRnet
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:58 AM
To: KRnet
Cc: Marc Baca ; Steve G.
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering
I typically maintain a low profile on the net and simply listen and learn
but today I'm compelled to talk about something I know a little about.
Throughout the last couple of years i've seen a few individuals lob some
subtle and often less than subtle suggestions that Steve Glover has indulged
in some impropriety. One such comment is the folowing......
"Hopefully there will be a full accounting to close those Gathering
books"....
I'm hoping that comments like these are simply an abrupt choice of words and
that they does not translate into Steve Glover (who organized the 2014
Gathering) having to deal with yet another layer of popular
misunderstandings.
I'm almost positive that Steve Glover will NOT give a "FULL" accounting of
the expenses for last year's gathering. I'm sure that he won't bother
anyone by commenting about the the numerous days he took off to get the 2014
KR Gathering locked in, the amount of $$ he spent out of pocket for the guys
he had to pay to clean and arranged a production hangar for the
worshops..... and out of sheer consideration for attendees.... the
constructions and installation of a new toilet (for older folk) and sinks,
the siding so that the hangar would look presentable and functional for
people, the renting and purchase of amenities like the Public Address
system, chairs and tables, the loss he took purchasing items to make sure
the workshops were useful to people, the gasoline from driving around to get
things done. Because the 2014 gathering appeared seemless, one might not
know the amount of time and effort it took to deal with the administration
at the airport, discussions with insurance companies, the coordination of
the cadre of volunteers and contributors that he had to convince. I'm
certain there's alot more that did that does not come to mind at the
moment.
I often see a posts that suggest that he is running a KR business that is
non responsive and have even seen the suggestion of fiduciary impropriety.
Many people don't know that he has invested several thousands of dollars
into a business (perhaps $75K or more) that keeps premade KR Parts available
at a significant loss to him personally year after year. I can see Steve's
frustration building year after year as some of these posts add insult to
the financial injury.
For those of you who have been swayed with a question about his character,
I've seen Steve almost every weekend for the last 4 years during which time
he's taught me to build aircraft. In the 4 years I've known him, I have not
witnessed even ONE incidence where Steve has indulged in any monetary
discrepancies. People never find out about the finicky buyers that cost him
fees after rescinding their orders due to the unfounded comments and ideas
transmitted through emails and such. Moreover, the last couple of years I've
witnessed people's expressed anxieties about plans and parts on the KRnet.
Most of the time the delays were caused by things that were not under his
control. I wont bore anyone with details but consider this.... Steve Glover
has made a great contribution to the KR Community.... 75% of the time at his
own expense .... as there is little financial gain in the KR parts business
and almost all of the time there is negative financial gain. Every month,
year after year, despite the cyber wallops lobbed at him, he keeps the
availability of pre made parts, kits and innovations for the KR coming.
Once again, I'm not interested in stirring up a discussion about this... My
comment is for the purpose of precluding a discussion about people's
anxieties .... as I personally witness the weekly operations at the NVaero
Hangar.
I also want to tip my hat to those individuals who assemble these
gatherings.... as I've witnessed that it is a Herculean effort.
Marc BacaEast L.A.N13UG
On Friday, September 11, 2015 6:09 AM, Steve G. via KRnet
<krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
Yet again, nobody contacted me.
Steve Glover
Sent from my electronic leash.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 05:40, Flesner via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I received the following personal e-mail and felt it necessary to reply to
> the group as I'm sure others have the same concern. E-mail and reply are
> below.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> At 11:29 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
>> Guys, is it really necessary/appropriate to be having this 'discussion'
>> on a public forum?
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> I felt it necessary to put the info on the net because of the situation it
> created. In spite of Steve's comment "Your "situation" is a joke and
> created by certain persons with their own agenda", his procrastination
> left Dan and John with no idea what funds they had to work with until
> shortly before the Gathering. It left people thinking we were short of
> funds and generated discussions at the Gathering about incorporating,
> having elected officers, people feeling obligated to donate additional
> funds, etc. I don't consider that "situation" to be a joke and felt
> everyone concerned needed to know the facts so we could make some rational
> decisions concerning future Gatherings.
>
> And yes, at this point, if there are any future communications, they can
> be handled off line. As a member of the steering committee, I hope to
> have open, honest, and timely communication for future Gatherings.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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