Rich
Checking the archives will let ANYONE know about the literal months of 
dicsussion that has already gone on about trying to make the KR whatever fit a 
category it was not designed for. Everyone that is arguing in favor of building 
a KR to meet ELSA standards has never built a KR to completion, or owns a 
flying KR. Most are not designers, with the exception of a few that comment.

It is not that Mark L or Mark J is putting a damper on appropriate threads or 
not, but this list is supposed to be devoted to just KR building and flying.  
We all contribute things from time to time that are not strictly KR material, 
maybe just pilot material, but aimed at safety or preventing similar mistakes, 
etc...  Friday's are reserved for the off the wall remarks.

What I am bringing up is that I am not trying to squash a thread that has 
merit, but rather to encourage an interested builder to do his research, and 
then consult with those that are doing directly. It has been agreed upon here 
that an ELSA legal KR 1 or 2 would not remotely be a KR anymore, and so it 
would really be more appropriate to have their own list and discussions. The 
topic got beaten up BAD just last year, with nothing more that alot of 
supposition about what could be done, yet no one has done that yet. But what is 
known is that discussing an ELSA KR which would really deserve its own new name 
at that point, would be like discussing the Taylor monoplane here; similar 
design (the blueprint for Ken for this plane) but different plane.

Case in point is Dana Overall: Dana is building an RV8 so he doesn't discuss 
things here that apply to metal airplanes, or RVs unless it is generic and also 
applies to us, then he gladly shares it.  An ELSA legal KR is no longer a KR 
but a new design. Discussing building processes would be the same, and so in my 
mind would be on target, but certification issues, and design modification 
parameters and the like would be more appropriate to another list for the new 
design.

I am not trying to push anyone out or hurt anyone's feelings, but it seems that 
once or twice a year we have to rmeind everyone that this list is NOT a general 
discussion list for any and all. It is a KR builders and pilots list for 
sharing wisdom and experience directly related to building and flying KR's, not 
other aircraft development, what happened to my sister, etc... and issues that 
threaten us like Brian's Case in Jacksonville.

If Mark L or Mark J feel I am off target then I conceed.  But I have watched 
thme have to make such remarks time and again to knock things back on track for 
THIS list.

Colin
N96TA
Ormond Beach, FL

> 
> From: [email protected]
> Date: 2006/07/28 Fri AM 09:51:18 EDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: KR> Making KR ELSA
> 
> Colin,
> There is a lot of band width "wasted" on a lot of subjects.  Check the
> archives for "Congratulations"--there isn't much info under that
> topic--and it takes up a lot of bandwidth, but it does serve to encourage
> builders.  We could just tell everyone who has questions on any KR
> subject to forget discussions and check the archives--the answers are
> probably there, but a discussion list is much more than an encyclopedia. 
> Many list members (especially those of us in the "Senior Division") are
> interested in "Sport Pilot" and feel this is a valid issue for
> discussion.  If Mark Langford would not want us to discuss Sport Pilot
> legal KR's on the KRnet, I would respect his wishes.  I know that this
> subject is an irritation to some,and some of the other things discussed
> are an irritation to me.......but I have a remedy.....the delete button.
> Rich Hartwig
> Waunakee, WI
> [email protected]
> 
> >Herbert
> >Not to be rude, but this has been discussed way more than it ever should
> have been with no conclusive conclusions as to >which way to go, or which
> way a builder can go. A search of the archives will reveal a WHOLE bunch
> of band width on >the subject.  With due respect I would say check there
> and then do what you think is best. Lets not start this thread over
> >again...
> 
> >Colin
> >N96TA
> >Ormond Beach, FL
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