I know that my DAR couldn't care less about where plans came from or if they are legal. A lot of people use the plans serial number for the aircraft serial number, but you can use any serial number you want and the FAA does not care what it is. I have owned several experimentals where the serial number of the plane was not the same as the plans number. I have also owned plans for other designs that are sold without a serial number. The Pitts is one of them. There are no serial numbered plans and you can buy them from several sources.
Even though you can use any set of bought, borrowed, or stolen plans to build a plane and the FAA does not care, I do recommend that we all do what we know is right. I have sold one set of KR plans that I bought and never built a plane from. I have two other sets of plans that go with two KR projects I have. I would not sell those unless I was selling the project with it. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of D F Lively Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:09 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Plans Ron & others: I purchased my first set of plans in '76 or '77 from Ken Rand personally when I lived in Irvine CA. I later exchanged these plans in to pick up revisions in '80 or '81withe him personally for a fee. Subsequently I lost my reciept and since my plans were purchased before numbers were recorded I felt I might have the problem with documentation as is being discussed here. I contacted Ms. Rand to try and resolve the matter and she retuned my call and we discussed the problem thoroughly and she said she would get back to me and she never did. I do not know what the problem is other than perhaps Ken to begin with was keeping pretty loose records and so after his death the records were messed up. I know I had a reciept and it must have been lost through one of my multiple moves so what is one to do in such a case. I realize that this could look like a fraud on its surface but it is not. This is somewhat of a mute issue as I took over a project that has a plans number so I feel that I am legal however I have attemted to contact Ms. Rand to notify her of my aquisition of the project complete with the plans and she has yet to respond. that was done in March or early April of this year. Again what is one to do. I have two legitimate sets of plansthe way I see it but I also think an argument can be made that I do not. Don Lively Burlington IA 52601 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Red ya sure wrote: > I am not an expert on copyrights, but there are several in my name, so I do have a bit of knowledge...once you buy the blueprints, they are yours! If you choose to give them away, cut them up, or share them, thats OK. It is probably implied, that the blueprints include a license to build one (1) plane. but AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT PROFIT FROM THEIR EFFORTS...IT'S PROBABLY LEGAL....Sorry, but morals and ethics are not taken into consideration. > RED > > Ron Freiberger <[email protected]> wrote: What part of "Thou shalt not steal" seems mysterious to you? > > Ron Freiberger > > mail to [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Kenhenderson > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:38 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> Plans > > Thanks to all who replied to my first post. I have several dumb > questions to ask about plans. I have 2 sets, 1 from 1975 with a serial # > and 1 from 1984 with no number. It has been advised that I contact > Jeanette Rand and have my name transferred to the numbered plans. Do you > have to have a set of plans registered to you in order to build a legal, > registered airplane? What prevents a person from copying a set of plans > and using them for construction? Ethics perhaps? Would a new set of > plans have noticeable improvements over the ones I have and would it be > advantageous to order said plans? Please answer on or off net to my > e-mail address. Still looking for a fixed main gear to replace the > retracts. Thanks, Ken > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > RED > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
