Pete, I am not referencing an IFR equipped KR panel. Most KR's I see do not have an artificial horizon but a turn and bank or turn coordinator. On my instrument ticket check ride, I had a partial panel NDB approach with hold using the turn coordinator, DG, altimeter and any other instrument I choose in my scan. In the scenerio I posted, I am assuming the KR pilot knows how to use the turn and bank or turn coordinator, along with say, compass, to keep the wings level. If not, why in the world did the pilot put the instrument in the airplane anyway? Seems like a waste of time because if you can't use it, you sure are not going to impress anyone with your well equipped T & B or TC anyway, so why the heck have it.......I know regs. Anyway, yes some clouds can be bumpy, but that is a fact of flying. Hitting the ground in uncontrolled flight will be a heck of a lot more bumpy. I have tried this approach, and it works very well for me. If you trim the airplane for hands off, 500' descent, you can scan your TC and compass to keep the wings level. Use visual scan and audio awareness for changes in engine noise to indicate a deviation from your desired descent rate. You will also feel it in the stick if you trimmed for hands off descent. Doing this now enables your brain not to go into sensory overload, you have your descent rate set, you have your heading set prior to entering the clouds, now you only have to keep the wings level. Keep it as simple as you can.
When the aircraft is rolling, the turn coordinator deflection is proportional to the rate of roll and not the rate of turn. With this said, a standard rate turn will generate a turn of 3 degrees per second. If you fly into the clouds unexpectedly, you can expect 1 minute to finalize a standard rate turn of 180s change in heading. Knowing it will take you a minute keeps you from panicing and rolling out in 30 seconds, saying to yourself, "somethings wrong, I should be out of it by now". Standard rate, tirm hands off, watch the compass and roll out level 1 minute later and fly out of the soup. Remember, it will take you some time to initiate the turn, so be sure and know what you reverse heading will be, but plan on one minute to get there. Sure, I expected responses, but will maintain my opinion, the previously posted at last resort descent procedure, works well and reduces pilot workload when he needs it most. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: KRnet <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: KR> VFR operations >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:05:50 -0000 (GMT) > > > Gang, the ol gang on this list know my passion for IFR training so I > > won't go into my soap box preaching. However, the following is an > > exercise in nessessity dictated controlled descent into IMC as a VFR > >Hi Dana, > >Please DO stand on that soap box, because you may save someone's life. > >I guess in your email, you implied that the aircraft should be equiped for >IFR. This reply is aimed at anybody who does not have a full panel. > >Anybody can ( and some will ) say I am being an old woman, but it's down >to the old pilot or bold pilot argument. > >A sobering reminder, Ken Rand died after running out of fuel on top. > >I am concerned that people on this list get the idea that flying in cloud >is easy, it's not! it's a killer for the inexperienced or if the aircraft >is not equiped for instrument flight. Air may be smooth 1000ft above >cloud, it can be very bumpy inside cloud, flying right way up without >reference to an artificial horizon is just about impossible. It is >generally reckoned that an average pilot will lose the plot within 90 secs >of entering cloud. If he is lucky be will spin out of the bottom of the >cloud, and have time to recover, in many cases the plane breaks up long >before it gets out. > >Yesterday Larry mentioned always assume you are going flying when doing >taxi exersizes, similarly always assume you will have to fly in cloud >before climbing on top. > >Wise pilots probably don't venture on top without a reliable AH. > >Pete > > > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001

