Yes, it was a shocker and I apologise for having a bad day down here and to
everyone, especially Mark L for violating the etiquette. I will endeavor to
restrain myself more in future. 



However, over the years I have been on this site have seen increasing
amounts of this sort of thing. In my view there is no place for religious
zealotry on this site. It would be easy for many of us to espouse our views
in this respect and clog up the system for good..but we don't.



Similarly I think it is inappropriate to introduce un-researched idealistic
design changes that have dangerous implications for any who may choose to
copy. There are numerous implications of drop tanks on stall, centre of
gravity, spar loading, side slip uncovering ports, venting, ground
clearance, drag and air flow over the flaps, ailerons and tail. I suspect
most of us are insufficiently qualified to even begin thinking about these
matters. There are many KRs flying and none need such tanks as far as I
know. So Craig, if you're going to do it please get expert advice and when
you have it come back and talk from a more learned base. I think you'll find
most will advise against it.



Folks, please talk about KR construction and not God or drop tanks on Sea
Furys..in other words stick to what is real and achievable. 



I would also like to thank those of you who have privately indicated support
for what I said.



John Martindale

29 Jane Circuit

Toormina NSW 2452

AUSTRALIA



ph: 61 2 6658 4767

mobile: 0403 432179

email: john_martind...@bigpond.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Craig Williams
Sent: Saturday, 23 October 2010 12:25 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace



Well that's not very nice.  Having a bad day down under are we?  LOL

--- On Fri, 10/22/10, John Martindale <john_martind...@bigpond.com> wrote:

From: John Martindale <john_martind...@bigpond.com>
Subject: RE: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, October 22, 2010, 11:41 AM

Piss off mate and the same to those who want to install drop tanks.



John Martindale

29 Jane Circuit

Toormina NSW 2452

AUSTRALIA



ph: 61 2 6658 4767

mobile: 0403 432179

email: john_martind...@bigpond.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Charles Burkholder
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2010 9:54 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace









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                                God's Grace

                                What is mentioned here appears to be a
shame, but the message is very true. I hope you are all blessed by this
story. I wonder how many people will delete this without reading it because
of the title.

                                There once was a man named George Thomas, a
pastor in a small New England town. One Easter Sunday morning, he came to
the Church carrying a rusty, bent, old bird cage and set it by the pulpit.
Eyebrows were raised and as if in response, Pastor Thomas began to speak . .
. 

                                "I was walking through town yesterday when I
saw a young boy coming toward me swinging this bird cage. On the bottom of
the cage were three little wild birds, shivering with cold and fright.

                                I stopped the lad and asked, "What do you
have there, son?"

                                "Just some old birds," came the reply.

                                "What are you going to do with them?" I
asked.                             

                                "Take 'em home and have fun with 'em," he
answered. "I'm gonna tease 'em and pull out their feathers to make 'em
fight. I'm gonna have a real good time."

                                "But you'll get tired of those birds sooner
or later. What will you do then?"

                                "Oh, I've got some cats," said the little
boy. "They like birds. I'll take 'em to them."

                                The pastor was silent for a moment. "How
much do you want for those birds, son?"

                                "Huh?! Why, you don't want them birds,
mister. They're just plain old field birds. They don't sing. They ain't even
pretty!"

                                "How much?" the pastor asked again.

                                The boy sized up the pastor as if he were
crazy and said,"Ten dollars?"

                                The pastor reached in his pocket and took
out a ten dollar bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, the boy
was gone. The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to the end of
the alley where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the cage down,
he opened the door, and by softly tapping the bars, persuaded the birds out,
setting them free.

                                So, that explained the empty bird cage on
the pulpit, and then the pastor began to tell another story.

                                One day Satan and Jesus were having a
conversation. Satan had just come from the Garden of Eden, and he was
gloating and boasting.

                                "Yes, sir, I just caught a world full of
people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew they couldn't resist. Got
'em all!"

                                "What are you going to do with them?" Jesus
asked.

                                Satan replied,"Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm
gonna teach them how to marry and divorce each
                                other, how to hate and abuse each other, how
to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how to invent guns and
bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun!"

                                "And what will you do when you are done with
them?" Jesus asked.

                                "Oh, I'll kill 'em," Satan glared proudly.

                                "How much do you want for them?" Jesus
asked.

                                "Oh, you don't want those people. They ain't
no good. Why, you'll take them and they'll just hate you. They'll spit on
you, curse you and kill you. You don't want those people!"

                                "How much? Jesus asked again.

                                Satan looked at Jesus and sneered, "All your
blood, tears and your life."

                                Jesus said, "DONE!"

                                Then Jesus paid the price.

                                The pastor picked up the cage and walked
from the pulpit.




                                I pray that everyone who sends this on, God
will bless in a special way.

                                If you have read this far then you will know
that I prayed for you today. . .

                                whether you send this on or not!  God bless
you! 
























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