Jonathan, please look at what i said. We don't need to add new features, that are not KDE's default, etc. We need to improve the *first exeprience:* * * *-don't use KDE's default wallpaper every where (login, plymouth, installer, desktop), use wallpaper as a wallpaper and create a * *nice background for plymouth, another one for lightdm and splash. This gives a cooler look&feel. People like this.*
2013/1/23 Jonathan Riddell <[email protected]> > Thanks for your suggestions. Our general philosphies with default > settings is: > -working by default, no first run configuration dialogues > -go with upstream's settings unless there's a very good reason > -keep it simple, don't clutter with too many features > -KDE first > > > Even much better of course would be to gives, if possible, a choice > during > > the installation process to set the Environment in few different ways > > first run configuration dialogues are nasty, how would the user know what > to choose? > > > Rekonq, is not ready yet and I cannot see any good reason to use a > "not > > ready yet software" as a default application, especially because we > are > > talking about the Default Tool to Access the Web, which is a 90% > daily > > use of computer for most of the people out there. > > It's a controvertial choice for sure, it fits in with my general KDE > idealism but it has been disappointing in how buggy it can be. > > But Firefox has no KDE integration and Chromium isn't supported for > the length of our supported releases. And since they are not KDE apps > they require a whole load of extra dependencies. > > > Dragon Player > > Dragon Player nicely integrates with KDE. vlc has a really cluttered UI > for most users. > > >like Kruler, KcolorChooser, KCharSelect > > and so on..... > > Our images are currently full up for our (arbitrary) 1GB size limit, so > any new addition means removing something such as a language pack. > > Having said that these kdeutils seem like useful additions and should not > take up too much space. > > > We want talk about Yakuake > > Yakuake is fun but it breaks the normal UI conventions so isn't suitable > for default use. > > > A calcuator, a converter, and everything can gives > > a better ideas about what can be done in plasma in a quick and easy > way. > > We don't like to clutter the desktop or panel (that's a general Ubuntu > philosophy). Adding favourite plasmoids can be easily done by users > and is generally best left up to them since a setup for one user won't > be very useful for another. > > > Activities: > > We're behind here and need to review what upstream do in default > activities and desktops. We shouldn't have two desktops by default now > with activities. > > Having said that I find activities unintuitive, there's no panel pager > to change them and no window animation on switch so if I accidently > press win-tab I just get all my windows disappearing :( > > > I fill really comfortable with some "extra functionality" enabled > like > > rolling up and down a window just within the mouse wheel, can be > very > > useful if you used to work with a lot of opened tasks. Talking about > > buttons on the window decorations I use a lot the button to "keep > Above > > Others", and I'm quite sure most of the new user not even knows it > can > > be done, instead once is there it's really easy to understand how > and > > when to use it. > > Another fancy and some time useful features that can be enabled by > > default is the ability to change the transparency of a window just > > pressing ALT and rolling the mouse wheel. > > First question to ask is why are these not turned on upstream? > There's a danger with default like this that users will active them > accidently and have no ide awhat happened or how to revert (like > pressing win-tab). > > > I guess a second panel on the top of the screen can do most of the job > > Ug, we don't want to take up extra screen space better used by > applications. > > Let the discussion continue.. :) > > Jonathan > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -- Pozdrawiam, T. Dudzik
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