I'm glad to hear that someone's working on the other stuff i mention. Lightdm please leave in my hands. I have an idea for the installer too. Please stay tuned.
2013/1/23 Tomasz Dudzik <[email protected]> > Jonathan, please look at what i said. We don't need to add new features, > that are not KDE's default, etc. We need to improve the > *first exeprience:* > * > * > *-don't use KDE's default wallpaper every where (login, plymouth, > installer, desktop), use wallpaper as a wallpaper and create a * > *nice background for plymouth, another one for lightdm and splash. This > gives a cooler look&feel. People like this.* > > 2013/1/23 Jonathan Riddell <[email protected]> > >> Thanks for your suggestions. Our general philosphies with default >> settings is: >> -working by default, no first run configuration dialogues >> -go with upstream's settings unless there's a very good reason >> -keep it simple, don't clutter with too many features >> -KDE first >> >> > Even much better of course would be to gives, if possible, a choice >> during >> > the installation process to set the Environment in few different ways >> >> first run configuration dialogues are nasty, how would the user know what >> to choose? >> >> > Rekonq, is not ready yet and I cannot see any good reason to use a >> "not >> > ready yet software" as a default application, especially because >> we are >> > talking about the Default Tool to Access the Web, which is a 90% >> daily >> > use of computer for most of the people out there. >> >> It's a controvertial choice for sure, it fits in with my general KDE >> idealism but it has been disappointing in how buggy it can be. >> >> But Firefox has no KDE integration and Chromium isn't supported for >> the length of our supported releases. And since they are not KDE apps >> they require a whole load of extra dependencies. >> >> > Dragon Player >> >> Dragon Player nicely integrates with KDE. vlc has a really cluttered UI >> for most users. >> >> >like Kruler, KcolorChooser, KCharSelect >> > and so on..... >> >> Our images are currently full up for our (arbitrary) 1GB size limit, so >> any new addition means removing something such as a language pack. >> >> Having said that these kdeutils seem like useful additions and should not >> take up too much space. >> >> > We want talk about Yakuake >> >> Yakuake is fun but it breaks the normal UI conventions so isn't suitable >> for default use. >> >> > A calcuator, a converter, and everything can gives >> > a better ideas about what can be done in plasma in a quick and >> easy way. >> >> We don't like to clutter the desktop or panel (that's a general Ubuntu >> philosophy). Adding favourite plasmoids can be easily done by users >> and is generally best left up to them since a setup for one user won't >> be very useful for another. >> >> > Activities: >> >> We're behind here and need to review what upstream do in default >> activities and desktops. We shouldn't have two desktops by default now >> with activities. >> >> Having said that I find activities unintuitive, there's no panel pager >> to change them and no window animation on switch so if I accidently >> press win-tab I just get all my windows disappearing :( >> >> > I fill really comfortable with some "extra functionality" enabled >> like >> > rolling up and down a window just within the mouse wheel, can be >> very >> > useful if you used to work with a lot of opened tasks. Talking >> about >> > buttons on the window decorations I use a lot the button to "keep >> Above >> > Others", and I'm quite sure most of the new user not even knows it >> can >> > be done, instead once is there it's really easy to understand how >> and >> > when to use it. >> > Another fancy and some time useful features that can be enabled by >> > default is the ability to change the transparency of a window just >> > pressing ALT and rolling the mouse wheel. >> >> First question to ask is why are these not turned on upstream? >> There's a danger with default like this that users will active them >> accidently and have no ide awhat happened or how to revert (like >> pressing win-tab). >> >> > I guess a second panel on the top of the screen can do most of the >> job >> >> Ug, we don't want to take up extra screen space better used by >> applications. >> >> Let the discussion continue.. :) >> >> Jonathan >> >> -- >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> > > > > -- > Pozdrawiam, T. Dudzik > -- Pozdrawiam, T. Dudzik
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