Hi Scott, 2013/8/1 Scott Kitterman <[email protected]>: > Ho Wan Chan <[email protected]> wrote: >>2013/8/1 Harald Sitter <[email protected]>: >>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ho Wan Chan <[email protected]> >>wrote: >>>> 2013/8/1 Harald Sitter <[email protected]>: >>>> If you don't care, why should we have it then? >>> >>> If we don't spend time on it and it is tested, why should we not have >>it? >>> >>>>>> Don't forget, we aren't exactly Lubuntu, who wants to support >>every >>>>>> single old computer. >>>>>> Alternate images are what Lubuntu still wants while we have >>already dropped it. >>>>>> Why should we drop alternate images if we can properly test it, as >>in >>>>>> coherence to our attitude? >>>>> >>>>> We didn't test them, that's why alternate was dropped. >>>> Think about this. We only have 1 tester for PowerPC. How many >>testers >>>> do we have for i386 and amd64? >>> >>> 1.5. And that 1.5 testers were kubuntu developers. Compared to ppc >>> which had 1 who was not a kubuntu developer. >>1.5. Seriously? I disagree. For the past few months our testing base >>has been increasing. >>We have one PPC tester. Lubuntu has 4. And 1 isn't enough for anything. >>> >>>> Alternate images can have a lot of >>>> testers. PowerPC will have problems. >>> >>> Since no one wanted to test alternate images despite them being easy >>> to test but one person tests ppc despite being hard to test, doesn't >>> that say something about ppc? >>> >>Well, if you enable them I will test them. >>>>> >>>>>> So, what are the pros and cons of removing PowerPC image builds? >>>>>> >>>>>> Pros: >>>>>> >>>>>> Save testing time on PowerPC builds (and no need to wait for it at >>all >>>>>> before we can release betas or final releases) >>>>> >>>>> AFAIK we'd still have to wait for the other flavors and I don't >>think >>>>> we ever delayed a release for considerable amount of time because >>an >>>>> architecture that is not x86 based wasn't tested. >>>> Well, the only flavour who still supports PowerPC except us is >>>> Lubuntu, and that's because they really want to support PowerPC, and >>>> they actually spend time contacting release teams and testing even >>the >>>> dailies. Not in our case. >>> >>> What's the pro then? >>> >>I thought the pros are already listed by me... >>>>>> Don't have to rely on other testers >>>>> >>>>> If we are spending time testing while relying on other testers to >>test >>>>> then something went terribly wrong... >>>>> >>>> I am sure once we have to contact them since we aren't testing. >>> >>> 'ping, testing plz' is a substantial time investment. >>We can't just go and always say: "Hey Lubuntu, plz help us". They >>aren't being accustomed to Kubuntu, don't forget. > > Don't be so tribal. I ask for volunteers on #ubuntu-testing. Doesn't matter > what they normally run. We do the same for amd64+mac. Eh, it's #ubuntu-quality. And amd64+mac is recent hardware, PowerPC is old hardware. > > Scott K > > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
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