On 08/01/2013 07:29 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hello Harald, > > 2013/8/1 Harald Sitter <[email protected]>: >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Ho Wan Chan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> However, a survey conducted by Russian Ubuntu users revealed that 80% >>> of users agree to the decision of removing such images. >> >> ~700 votes casted; and the voters had not been properly informed as it >> turns out. > Well sure, they are not informed of the TECHNICAL side of things. But > then, that's what a normal Ubuntu user would think of PowerPC. >> >>> So, I'm suggesting that we should change our attitude, and stop >>> building PowerPC images. >> >> As has been done at about every non-virtual UDS since forever. Latest >> conclusion (from I think the March Mumble Meeting) was that since >> build problems do not really occur (unlike with ARM for example) we >> want to keep it around for as long as we have someone testing the ISO. >> That being said, I do not know anyone who spends considerable time on >> Kubuntu for PowerPC, so I am not sure dropping PowerPC would have any >> impact on the developers. I for one don't care. >> > If you don't care, why should we have it then? >>> Don't forget, we aren't exactly Lubuntu, who wants to support every >>> single old computer. >>> Alternate images are what Lubuntu still wants while we have already dropped it. >>> Why should we drop alternate images if we can properly test it, as in >>> coherence to our attitude? >> >> We didn't test them, that's why alternate was dropped. > Think about this. We only have 1 tester for PowerPC. How many testers > do we have for i386 and amd64? Alternate images can have a lot of > testers. PowerPC will have problems. >> >>> So, what are the pros and cons of removing PowerPC image builds? >>> >>> Pros: >>> >>> Save testing time on PowerPC builds (and no need to wait for it at all >>> before we can release betas or final releases) >> >> AFAIK we'd still have to wait for the other flavors and I don't think >> we ever delayed a release for considerable amount of time because an >> architecture that is not x86 based wasn't tested. > Well, the only flavour who still supports PowerPC except us is > Lubuntu, and that's because they really want to support PowerPC, and > they actually spend time contacting release teams and testing even the > dailies. Not in our case. > <snip /> For what it's worth, I'd like to add PowerPC images back to Xubuntu if and when we get a tester to commit to the images. Kubuntu seems to already have that. I see great value in having something easy to use for people to resurrect their old Mac hardware that Apple abandoned.
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