alohas, sorry for the long mail, but I have to explain stuff a bit ^^ tldr: kubuntu wiki annoys me, might want to move to kde wiki, need to cleanup kubuntu wiki first
some people (namely me) recently got (again) extremely unhappy with our current wiki which is powerd by moinmoin. since we only use the wiki for internal community documentation it seems to cause more hazzle than it is helping us drive the community. right now login is completely defunct when using the wiki.kubuntu domain and editing moinmoin is as inefficient as it has been since forever. this in turn may have made someone suggest that we could look into moving our useful wiki pages (mostly ninjas documentation) to community.kde.org. Valorie was nice enough to ask kde whether that's ok with them and there was no opposition to the idea, so the decision now lies with us (or rather, with the Kubuntu Council really). brain dump list of pros: - subectively mediawiki is easier to use - kde's mediawikis have nice template sugar to write more appealing and efficient pages (such as graphically distinct tip boxes and whatnot) - login works - our internal processes and such may be more discoverable to other distributions's KDE teams brian dum list of cons: - moves part of our stuff out of the ubuntu community, which may appear as though we are moving away from ubuntu (which is obviously not point of the exercise) - makes our internal processes and such less discoverable to the wider ubuntu community - we'll probably not want to move everything, so a selected community members will have to juggle two wikis (for example the pre-release notes are traditionaly kept on the ubuntu wiki and share common release notes business through wiki includes, so moving that seems less useful) - generally deludes the web service cohesion and branding a bit on our side so, somewhat objectively whether one should move the stuff or not is not exactly clear. for me however it's about getting the most useful tools for our work and at least for me moinmoin does not deliver. before having the council put this to a vote though I'd like to invite everyone to clean up the current wiki. from random browsing it seems that there are insanely outdated and useless pages along with some also insanely outdated user documentation floating about. these need to go, regardless of whether we move. for this purpose, simply browse through our pages and add a category at the bottom of each page you can add a category by appending the category name to the page content: > ---- > CategoryKubuntuUseful categories are: - CategoryKubuntuUserDocs (user targetting documentation) - CategoryKubuntuUseful (useful pages that should be kept around - includes possibly outdated documentation that might want to be updated) - CategoryKubuntuReview (your's truly will have a closer look) - CategoryKubuntuRubbish (should be deleted most likely) after the cleanup we can then look into whether we want to move or stay. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu TIA HS -- kubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
