Valorie Zimmerman schreef op 25-05-2016 4:09:
Hello Xen, have you filed bugs against Spectacle in bugs.kde.org? The
developer does not (presumably) read this list. Ksnapshot was not only
unmaintained, but was rapidly bit-rotting, and also would completely
cease to function in the post-Wayland world, so the Spectacle devel
took what he could of the old code, and started anew with the rest of
the application.
It is new, so bug reports are welcomed. It is fine to do the
workaround of making ksnapshot work for now, but that will not work
forever. Therefore, it will help all of us if you make the effort to
file bug reports and make Spectacle better.
Filing bug reports does not make a program better, you know that?
It only tells you what is wrong about a product. That does not improve
anything.
Most of these things are things you can discover in 2 hours if you try.
That means the developer should already be fully aware of it and
shouldn't need other people to tell him so.
He apparently sought to improve things that already worked well, and
made things worse. Who am I then to say that he should do things
differently?
It seems rushed, like most thing are. Spectacle has better command line
options than KSnapshot, and more fit for an actual screenshotting
application. However using DBus makes it harder for users, not easier.
You can use the DBusViewer to view most or all of the options available,
but only if the application is already started, and most of them are
useless to a user. It is a developer tool, but now prominently features
on a user dialog screen for just adjusting a command or changing the
command that is started on a shortcut. DBus is not something you should
expect users to use, it is not a user interface. This makes it
incomprensible and even impossible to even change the default. Now you
end up with a non-configurable system for most users.
The issue with KDEs configurion was not lack of DBus, it was lack of an
ability to efficiently select applications, requiring you to type a full
path, even though you can only use applications (normally) that are
already in the PATH. So what was needed was a better way to select
in-PATH applications, but now we have DBus instead which makes it even
worse instead of better. KSnapshot was controllable by DBus, just not
started that way. But for a user, command line options are enough.
Moreoever those are meant as a user interface instead of as a developer
interface....
So currently we see four changes:
- better command line options
- worse way to start it (DBus)
- worse user interface
- some failing functionality on the one hand, and added background
functionality on the other hand.
I mean no one needs me to see this, the question is whether they
recognise it or not.
I don't want to end up being the next guy to file a bug report and then
being ignored.
Moreoever the last bug report I filed spammed me incessantly. I had to
take myself off its CC list because there were meaningless updates
emailed to me daily. Now that was a very popular bug, you might say. But
it just took me another 15 minutes to log back into the system after
having forgotten my password or username.
Requiring users to create accounts specifically for you is just not
done. That is putting up barriers to entry, email suggestions or bugs
should be free, not behind a walled garden.
And moreover, I do not like BugZilla at all even if it is KDE's variant
(there are much better systems).
So no, I prefer to talk directly to developers. Sorry.
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