Thanks for pointing me to that mailing list. I wasn't aware of it's
existence. I knew this probably wasn't the right place to post my
problem and suggested answer, but I knew you were a friendly bunch
(Scarlett Clark attends my local LUG) of people and could point in me
the right direction.
As for my 10s of thousands of machines statement. I used to be Tech
Director for a large school district in Arizona (28 campuses when I
left) and we would put an image of latest version of Kubuntu on all the
machines twice a year as long as we didn't see any major blockages in
the particular version (like there was with the initial switch to
KDE4... we waited a year till version 4.3 was released :)
It was wonderful only having to have a single image that would work on
every single machine that we would install it on. It sure beat the "bad
old days" when we had to have a windows image for every single kinds of
machine... In the end it just meant the windows machines never got
reinstalled if we could help it and were constantly infested with
viruses and malware that the kids were purposefully install to get out
have having to do their work... I was a very hostile environment.
Anyway, I'm hoping that I can get something done about the wallet's
initial setup. I found that it wasn't a huge problem for people at
first, but their misunderstanding of what the wallet was and it almost
always getting miss-configured for their needs would annoy them over the
long term. It's the kind of problem that doesn't get reported but you
see people yelling at their computer when they get a password prompt
that they don't think they should be getting while you are on site.
Thanks,
Brian Cluff
On 08/01/2017 10:49 AM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
I'm interested that you say you have installed Kubuntu on tens of
thousands of machines. If so, perhaps the KDE list for people who run
large deployments would be the most suitable place to post:
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/enterprise
KDE is very interested in getting large deployments as pain-free as
possible. We in Kubuntu can be helpful at the packaging level, but not
directly in software development or fixing bugs at that level.
All the best,
Valorie
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Brian Cluff <br...@snaptek.com> wrote:
I'm sure this isn't the most correct place to post this, but perhaps it
could make it's way to the correct person.
I've put Kubuntu on 10s of thousands of machines over the years and a very
common problem that I run into is with the KDE wallet system. I meant to
write in with this suggestion years ago, but it got out of site, out of
mind. However I just did a little tech support for someone that was very
very angry about the situation, so I thought I should finally say something
(better late than never).
So the problem is that when you first login it tells you set a password for
the wallet, but it doesn't really give you any of the implications of
setting that password so it then becomes a giant annoyance to those that
don't care about protecting their passwords and just want their system to
leave them alone.
So my thoughts are that without changing the wallet system itself perhaps a
different initial setup could be created that briefly tells you what the
wallet does and then asks you to pick from 3 levels of security for the
wallet such as:
Low security: Just store my passwords in the wallet without a password
Medium security: Set a password for your web passwords but keep the local
passwords without a password so your wifi "just works"
High security: Set a password for all passwords in the wallet
Only the second and third option would prompt for a password.
I suppose you could have a 4th option to not use the wallet at all, but I
wouldn't recommend that to anyone.
I believe that simple change would keep people not only more educated about
what the wallet is, but will make them happier with KDE in the long run...
(and keep people from yelling at me in the future <grin>)
Thanks for reading my rant,
Brian Cluff
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