Presiden Gus Dur dan Presiden Clinton bertemu di Gedung Putih, Jumat siang
waktu setempat (Jumat malam WIB). Sehabis pertemuan, kedua kepala negara
melakukan "photo opportunity" di depan wartawan, di mana berlangsung
tanya-jawab dengan pers. Kebetulan saya punya transkrip lengkap keterangan
kedua presiden dalam acara yang tak lain dai jumpa pers tersebut. Maka saya
jadi terperengah membaca berita Detikcom yang menyatakan sehabis pertemuan
tidak ada acara jumpa pers sebagaimana lazimnya. Malah ditambahi alasan
karena kunjungan Gus Dur itu tidak resmi. Sebagaimana pembaca setia
Detikcom, saya jadi bertanya: Wah, lagi-lagi bagaimana nih kredibilitas
berita Detikcom? Silakan baca transkrip tersebut, yang di bawahnya langsung
saya forward juga berita Detikcom.
Salam: Reva Renaldo
Jumpa pers Gus Dur - Clinton:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release November 12, 1999
REMARKS BY PRESIDENT CLINTON
AND INDONESIAN PRESIDENT WAHID
IN PHOTO OPPORTUNITY
The Oval Office
12:20 P.M. EST
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Let me say, it's a great honor for me and for
all of our team to welcome President Wahid here, with the members of his
government. He is now the leader of the world's third-largest democracy,
and we are very encouraged by that. We have seen this peaceful transition
in Indonesia; we've seen a resolution in East Timor, even though there's
still the problem of refugees in West Timor. And I'm looking very much
forward to this visit.
I think the American people know that a strong and stable and
prosperous and democratic Indonesia is very much in our interest. That's
the sort of partnership we're interested in pursuing, and I hope I can be
helpful in that regard.
So I'm delighted to have you here, Mr. President. And if you'd
like to make any public comment to the press while you're here --
PRESIDENT WAHID: Well, thank you for putting a little time for
me today to visit you, Mr. President, because you know that I come from
Indonesia just to make sure that we are still great friends of the United
States, that we are still in good touch with you. And I think that in the
future, we meet you more than before. So also that you know that although
there is a shift in policy, but not at the expense of the
American-Indonesian relationship. This is very important to know, since
you understand that this is one world, so we have to create that kind of
one world.
And I'm interested in the comment you made about our religious
dialogue, which goes toward one world, in that sense. You see, from far
away we heard that you made very nice comments on those inter-religious
dialogues in Indonesia. And I hope that two months to come, in January,
we'll have a discussion initiated by the Americans from Philadelphia, with
the Foreign Minister to be a participant there, to be on the organizing
committee. We will invite, of course, chief rabbi of Israel as well as the
-- former chief rabbi. And from here, from the Catholic side and so forth,
I don't know who will come. But anyway, around 50 people will come there,
of the three Abrahamic traditions.
And since, you know, that kind of thing is special for us in
Indonesia, I would like to use this occasion to inform you about this,
before anything else -- economic things. Those are the troubles there.
So I'm very glad. Today I met people from the World Bank and the
IMF and then from the Ex-Im Bank, in which we see the possibility of having
more hands extended towards us, to help us to overcome the difficulties in
the economic shape, now.
Well, you mentioned about East Timor. I think that, of course,
we still have trouble, and we would like the United States to take
attention to this kind of problem as well. But I would like to inform you,
Mr. President, that -- will come to Jakarta, and I'll meet him. So I hope
that will ease a little bit the situation in that area, because East Timor
is, you know, our brothers.
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Thank you very much. That's very good news.
Q President Wahid, sir, President Wahid, sir, why are you
inclined to be willing to pardon your predecessor, President Soeharto? And
President Clinton, what do you think of the possibility of a pardon for
him?
PRESIDENT WAHID: I think if we -- we will use law, of course.
And we would like to know whether he is guilty or not, according to the
law. But after that, we will pardon him because of two reasons. First is
that he was our President, so we have to be careful about this for the
future generations. Second thing is that, you know, that it's not easy,
because Mr. Soeharto still has big followers. So we have to be careful not
to, let's say, topple the cart.
PRESIDENT CLINTON: I think the decision, first of all, is one
for the Indonesian people and government to make. And I think every
country has to decide how to resolve the tension between the pursuit of a
particular case and the desire for the reconciliation of people, and to go
forward. And I think that that's a decision that the President has to
make, and we ought to support his -- anything that he's trying to do to
build democracy and to take Indonesia into the future.
Yes, you had a question?
Q Mr. President, after this meeting will you resume military
assistance to Indonesia?
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Well, we're going to talk about that, and
about what kinds of things that we both can do, over a period of time, to
strengthen our relationships, including the issue of military-to-military
ties. And I look forward to talking to the President about that.
Q How important is the structural integrity -- the territorial
integrity of Indonesia? And is it more important than the
self-determination of the peoples of Indonesia?
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Well, I don't think it has to be an either-or
thing. I think the -- I said, at the time when Indonesia supported giving
the East Timorese a vote, that I would support that, and that having given
them the vote, that the vote had to be respected.
On the other hand, we support the territorial integrity of
Indonesia. And I think we have to acknowledge that it's quite a
challenging task to preserve a democracy so widespread and so diverse. And
I hope we can be somewhat helpful in the President dealing with this
challenge.
Berikut ini berita Detikcom, yang antara lain menyatakan di akhir pertemuan
itu tidak ada jumpa pers sebagai lazimnya, karena kunjungan Gus Dur tersebut
tidak resmi:
Setelah Bertemu Presiden World Bank
Gus Dur - Clinton Bertemu 30 Menit
Reporter: Nurul Hidayati
detikcom, Wahington DC- Presiden Gus Dur
melakukan
pertemuan secara tidak resmi dengan
Presiden AS, Bill Clinton
pada Jumat (12/11/1999) siang waktu Amerika
atau Jumat
malam waktu Indonesia. Bertemuan itu
berlangsung di White
House. Tidak lama memang. Hanya 30 menit
saja.
Pertemuan kedua kepala negara itu berakhir
pada pukul 23.45
wib. Di akhir pertemuan memang tidak ada
acara jumpa pers
sebagai lazimnya. Soalnya, kunjungan Gus
Dur itu sifatnya tidak
resmi. Bukan kunjungan kenegaraan.
Sebelum bertemu dengan Presiden Clinton,
Gus Dur sempat
melakukan pembicaraan dengan para petinggi
lembaga-lembaga
keuangan internasional. Antara lain Gus Dur
bertemu Presiden
World Bank, James
Walfensohn, Deputy Directur Pelaksana
IMF Stanley Fischer dan Direktur Exim Bank,
James Hatmen.
Gus Dur bertemu dengan para petinggi
lembaga keuangan
internasional itu di Hotel Watergate. Di
Hotel yang namanya
bersejarah itulah, selama berada di
Washington DC, Presiden
Gus Dur menginap.
Sebelum bertemu dengan mereka, Gus Dur yang
hadir dalam
acara silaturahmi dengan masyarakat
Amerika-Indonesia yang tergabung dalam
Usindo (The
Uniter-Indonesia Soceity) menyatakan, bahwa
negara-negara
barat tetap diperlukan di dalam membantu
memulihkan
perekonomian Indonesia.
Setelah bertemu dengan Clinton, Gus Dur
akan langsung terbang
ke Salt Lake City untuk melakukan
pengobatan mata. Di Salt
Lake City, Gus Dur akan menginap semalam
sebelum kemudian
terbang ke Tokyo, Jepang.
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