Hi,
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Martin Srebotnjak <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, Jan, > > 2011/1/21 Jan Holesovsky <[email protected]> > > > Yesterday I have uploaded the wikihelp translations to > > http://help.libreoffice.org , so far for the following languages: > > > > en, ca, cs, de, es, fr, hu, it, ja, pt, pt-BR, ru, sl, vi > > > > Please let me know if your language's help is translated, and you want > > to see it in wikihelp :-) > > > If I'm wright, this refers to the translations done for Ooo. If that's so, *eu *help is already translated, and I guess it would be great to put it online. You can just take it from Ooo and put it in help.libreoffice.org , wright? > > Great, it looks it is working for sl. > > But - "ah there's the rub" (to quote the Prince of Denmark) - the page > around it is in English even when English is not selected (the title/logo > of > the page remains "LibreOffice Help" - it is rendered so it should be > rendered in all help languages, the navigation links are all English (Main > Page, Community Portal, etc.). > > I guess the direct link to that language version should open the page also > in the same wiki-language, i.e. Hungarian help in the wiki should be > displayed with the Hungarian wiki-interface etc. Could this be done? > I guess this should be default actions for all the wiki top page links to > same pages translated in other languages (why would one want to see the > page > in one's native language and have all the wiki navigation links and the > logo > in English?). > > > > From now on, the pages have the language choice at the top; if not, it > > is necessary to clear the wiki's cache using action=purge for that page, > > like: > > > > > http://help.libreoffice.org/index.php5?title=Chart/Charts_in&action=purge > > > > [where Charts/Charts_in is the name of the page where you don't see the > > language choice]. > > > > Unfortunately, I did not find a way to clear the cache for the entire > > wiki at one go, sorry for that. If anybody of you knows, ideas > > appreciated :-) > > > > The logic to show the page in the right language immediately after you > > issue help is not implemented yet, I hope to get it done on Monday. > > > > > Well that is the main "rub" - hope to see it implemented! > > And now some observations with this online help implementation: > It is not as useful as the installed help yet - there is no tree of pages > to > browse through (you cannot know if there is a subpage to this help page or > a > page above it in the hierarchy etc.), the search results are hardly > human-readable and informative. If you want users to prefer this help, the > help content structure should be presented in some way and search should be > better or at least as in the installed help. > > Also, once you have a help page opened, you are not interested in other > language versions of the same page, but of the main help page of your > language, of similar help pages / topics in your language - the help frame > around the help page should be more same-language-help informative and not > same-page-in-other-languages informative. > > And one should have a feeling that one arrived at the heart of LO help > offering - the place to be when in need of help with LO. So there should be > some references automatically added to the documentation pages in that same > language, to the mailing lists etc. > > To make it short - the frame in which this page content is displayed should > be more - helpful to the user. And fully localizable. > > Just my 2 cents, > m. > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > [email protected]<l10n%[email protected]> > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
