> > o) time - depending on need's importance vs urgency, if dynamic PTI > tables population is to be there in a couple of month, or in > a couple of > years (would like to point out that understimating the time > it may take > to convince l1/trans networks to make use of BGP may be impacting) >
I think I understand the timing issue, but what is the specific 'problem' with BGP in relation to L1 transport network? (with BGP being used for the purpose of discovery) > o) cost - can be seen both ways is there a need to have a single > protocol for LxVPN (x = 1, 2, 3) or is there a need to have a single > protocol for L1/TE operations ? so it depends whether operators are > looking for integrating their TE operations (including VPN or not) or > VPN operations (including TE or not); > Possibly both .. the same/similar protocols for VPN (L1,2,3..) and for TE (L1,2,3..). I'm not the same protocols for VPN and TE is that obvious, the applications are very different. > o) perf - concerning the protocol perf. we're discussing path > vector vs > link-state protocol so impact/properties are different by > nature but TE > processing overhead/impact would be worth investigated (note > that this > depends on the problem statement e.g. what would be the impact of > progressively incorporating TE specific mechanisms for > L1(VPN) into BGP > if such need is identifed ?) > How is L1VPN discovery related to TE (path computation?) these seem not related to me. If multiple solutions for L1VPN discovery are to be described within the IETF, I agree with Julien that not all of them necessarily need to be made standard. cheers, Eduard > MEURIC Julien RD-CORE-LAN wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > > Allow me to get back to the issue raised during the L1VPN meeting: > > the autodiscovery protocol. > > > > I think it is clear for everyone that BGP really fits the > job. Thus I > > do not see why we would need to add an IGP to do less > things. Lots of > > drawbacks were even pinpointed during the meeting: more flooding, > > less scalability, no AS crossing, less flexibility (full > mesh)... but > > no real advantage. > > > > What is more, as Kireeti said, starting with 2 different > solutions is > > likely to bring more problems than solve any. Since something needs > > to be added, I am not sure that extending an IGP (or both if we do > > not want to preclude any option...) will be easier/quicker > than using > > BGP. And if, despite this, some consider it as a 1st step, then I > > think we do not need to make it a standard. > > > > So I am in favour of BGP autodiscovery, but BGP only. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Julien > > > > _______________________________________________ L1vpn mailing list > > L1vpn@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l1vpn > > > > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > L1vpn mailing list > L1vpn@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l1vpn > _______________________________________________ L1vpn mailing list L1vpn@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l1vpn